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Species Bananas Discussions of all the different wild species of banana (non edible), an aspect of the hobby that deserves its own section.


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Old 08-12-2008, 02:51 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Default Re: Musa Nagense Black Stem

Kyle, I haven't a clue where I got the seeds from. I have had seeds from Phil before and also buy a lot from ebay and some from Jim Johnson too!

I have always wanted the Nagensium with the black midribs but so far it has eluded me.

I did try a neagensium last year outside with no protection and it never came back...But...Cheesmanii did It was cut to the ground and then a small shoot came up late spring. Its not going to make a nice speciemin though.
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That's about how my Musa cheesmani came back after getting huge the previous year, and coming back really weakly.
Did you try(outside winter) the nagesium on the left or the one that looks kinda like cheesmani?
Maybe give the real nagesium more sun and it will turn more black, since the Musa balbisiana black does that.
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Default Re: Musa Nagense Black Stem

I have had the same experience with Musa cheesmani that you two have. It has come back for me for the past 2 years, but it is pretty late returning, and it is really puny this year. I'd be very surprised to see it return next year, unless it starts growing about 2 leaves/week. The funny thing is that it came back from the pseudostem too, and I don't think it is 2 feet tall yet. On the other hand, my Musa itinerans is pushing 9 feet of pseudostem right now!

I got my Musa nagensium seeds from James at europalms.be, and they don't have any color in the midribs either. They don't have the incredible amount of wax that it is supposed to have on the underside of the leaves either. The pseudostems are starting to get darker though. I need to repot them badly, lol. They were sitting on their sides for a while, and all four of the bigger ones now are growing completely sideways. I should take a picture of that, it really is quite amusing.
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Old 08-14-2008, 01:14 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Default Re: Musa Nagense Black Stem

Kyle, I am not sure what Nagensium was put out side really. I would think the same as the one in the picture. I am sure with Protection one would survive ok.

Frank, Shame on you for growing bent bananas..lol
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Are they cold hardy? let you know next year I have 5 or 6 in the ground.


What was the result Kev?
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What was the result Kev?
The result was 5 or 6 dead Nagensiums :-(

mind you it was the toughest winter we've had here in 12/13 years
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The result was 5 or 6 dead Nagensiums :-(

mind you it was the toughest winter we've had here in 12/13 years
What were the min temperatures? How long did they last?
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Old 08-14-2009, 11:17 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Hi Jack

In the UK it's not so much about the low temps we had -9C minimum. it's more about the prolonged damp which causes rot.
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So if I'm right this is also a musa nagensium?
I also have some pups, If someone wants a trade?
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Default Re: Musa Nagense Black Stem

So apparently, I have cheesmanii instead of nagensium. The seed was from Chiltern's and it was not white. The ps. is a beautiful black. My question is, will it ever produce pups?
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