Musa Nagense Black Stem - Page 2

Mark Hall · 08-12-2008, 02:51 PM

Kyle, I haven't a clue where I got the seeds from. I have had seeds from Phil before and also buy a lot from ebay and some from Jim Johnson too!

I have always wanted the Nagensium with the black midribs but so far it has eluded me.

I did try a neagensium last year outside with no protection and it never came back...But...Cheesmanii did

It was cut to the ground and then a small shoot came up late spring. Its not going to make a nice speciemin though.

Tropicallvr · 08-13-2008, 03:05 PM

That's about how my Musa cheesmani came back after getting huge the previous year, and coming back really weakly.
Did you try(outside winter) the nagesium on the left or the one that looks kinda like cheesmani?
Maybe give the real nagesium more sun and it will turn more black, since the Musa balbisiana black does that.

bigdog · 08-13-2008, 10:49 PM

I have had the same experience with Musa cheesmani that you two have. It has come back for me for the past 2 years, but it is pretty late returning, and it is really puny this year. I'd be very surprised to see it return next year, unless it starts growing about 2 leaves/week. The funny thing is that it came back from the pseudostem too, and I don't think it is 2 feet tall yet. On the other hand, my Musa itinerans is pushing 9 feet of pseudostem right now!

I got my Musa nagensium seeds from James at europalms.be, and they don't have any color in the midribs either. They don't have the incredible amount of wax that it is supposed to have on the underside of the leaves either. The pseudostems are starting to get darker though. I need to repot them badly, lol. They were sitting on their sides for a while, and all four of the bigger ones now are growing completely sideways. I should take a picture of that, it really is quite amusing.

Mark Hall · 08-14-2008, 01:14 PM

Kyle, I am not sure what Nagensium was put out side really. I would think the same as the one in the picture. I am sure with Protection one would survive ok.

Frank, Shame on you for growing bent bananas..lol

grub · 08-13-2009, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 51st state

Are they cold hardy? let you know next year I have 5 or 6 in the ground.

What was the result Kev?

51st state · 08-13-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by grub

What was the result Kev?

The result was 5 or 6 dead Nagensiums :-(

mind you it was the toughest winter we've had here in 12/13 years

Jack Daw · 08-13-2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 51st state

The result was 5 or 6 dead Nagensiums :-(

mind you it was the toughest winter we've had here in 12/13 years

What were the min temperatures? How long did they last?

51st state · 08-14-2009, 11:17 AM

Hi Jack

In the UK it's not so much about the low temps we had -9C minimum. it's more about the prolonged damp which causes rot.

Goingbananas2009 · 08-20-2009, 01:45 PM

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So if I'm right this is also a musa nagensium?
I also have some pups, If someone wants a trade?

Greetz

estan · 08-22-2009, 02:00 PM

So apparently, I have cheesmanii instead of nagensium. The seed was from Chiltern's and it was not white. The ps. is a beautiful black. My question is, will it ever produce pups?
stan

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