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Old 08-13-2011, 02:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default Could these be Musa Basjoo seeds?

I was doing my customary ebay search for musa related items and I found this listing which intrigued me.

? Japanische Faserbanane winterhart Musa b. mag Nässe ? | eBay

It's quite vague and doesn't mention it by name, but could he be selling Musa basjoo seeds?

I've heard the japanese fibre banana name used for Musa Balbisiana also, so maybe, maybe not.

I bought 10 so will post photos of the seeds when they come.
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Old 08-13-2011, 03:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Could these be Musa Basjoo seeds?

I dont think so.
I think even he doesnt know what is he selling, according the name that can be M. Nagensium.
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Default Re: Could these be Musa Basjoo seeds?

I am doubtful also. Although I think they are balbisiana
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Default Re: Could these be Musa Basjoo seeds?

Why is it that Musa basjoo seeds are so rarely, if ever, available?

It is very widely grown, flowers often. Ive seen discussions in which the seeds are described. Has anyone germinated any?

Are there any wild populations of M. basjoo?
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Default Re: Could these be Musa Basjoo seeds?

There are wild M. basjoo, and they make seed, however, the common cultivated form seems to be sterile. M. basjoo seed exists, but since the plants are so common already, the sellers would think there is not much of a market for them.
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Default Re: Could these be Musa Basjoo seeds?

Using the terms Japanese fiber musa b, and that it originates from china and is frost tolerant to -20c definitely suggests they believe the seed to be musa basjoo.

Either way it will be interesting to find out.

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The ripe fruits of Musa Basjoo and its seeds
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I still belive that he doesnt know nothing about bananas and he just resell seeds. Original japanese fiber banana is M. Balbisiana var. liukiuensis and none of bananas can tolerate -20C, not even the Basjoo without heavy protection.
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Default Re: Could these be Musa Basjoo seeds?

OK the mystery seeds have arrived and they look to me to be very much like the seeds in the link musa monkey has found.

They don't look like balbisiana seeds to me.

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Default Re: Could these be Musa Basjoo seeds?

They certainly look like the ones in the old thread to me.

Tempted to give them a try for the fun of it but given i have about 60 musa basjoo plants as it is i think her indoors may not let me get away with it
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Also very similar to M. Nagensium


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Hmmmm they do look similar to Nagensium, I think there are subtle differences though.

I'll see if I can get any to germinate. I guess then we'll see
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Agree with You 100% on that one. One way or another good luck with them. I hope we will debate on seedling ID very soon.
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They are starting to pop up...any ideas? [IMG][/IMG]
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Default Re: Could these be Musa Basjoo seeds?

Hi James,
Any chance of an update on your seedlings!
I bought some of those seeds from the German eBay seller and I don’t think its Basjoo seed, the seed is too small for basjoo.
It will be interesting to see if your seedlings develop any wax on them because the seed looks like it could be balbisiana to me.


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Hi Tony

I'll post some pics soon, but I was starting to think the same thing as I have some balbisiana germinating next to them and they do look almost exactly the same, the only difference is the colour, but that could be environmental.
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