Another new species???

tropicalkid · 09-18-2006, 05:00 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-RARE-Variega...QQcmdZViewItem

Opinions please.

Carlos

jeffreyp · 09-18-2006, 05:09 PM

It's not a true edible banana but related plant in the same family called 'ensete'. E. Maurelii are well established in cultivation here in the usa. It's neither new nor rare as always with ebay...buyer beware...

you can find them at stokes..

http://stokestropicals.com/detail.as...FSBkMAodNBGkRg

Zac in NC · 09-18-2006, 05:34 PM

Jeff Yeah you can find the regular one at most places but that is the first white variegated one I have ever seen.

Zac

Tropical Lady · 09-18-2006, 09:10 PM

We had one like that at the nursery about 3 months ago, ph levels were really low, added some humic acid to it and the variegation went away! Would have loved to see what it would have looked like, but i think it was just a freak accident

JoeS475 · 09-18-2006, 10:25 PM

And another one...

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-EXTREMELY-RA...QQcmdZViewItem

~Joe

tropicalkid · 09-19-2006, 09:07 AM

Did everyone notice that every plant they are selling has variegation in it? Either this store only buys/resells variegated lots, or they have their own variegation techniques, hmmmm....

I wonder if the owner shows some variegation, like freckles or something...

jeffreyp · 09-19-2006, 09:42 AM

I am not an expert on variegation, but I have observed that variegation can be changed by soil ph. AEAE bananas can lose their variegation by a sharp change in soil ph. RED kru can change to green kru by a shift in soil ph. Also viruses are sometimes deliberately introduced in plants to obtain variegated flowers and foliage. The most common virus shows up as a bright yellow leaf margin. This is known as virus induced variegation.

Tropical Lady · 09-19-2006, 11:22 AM

Jeffrey, you are RIGHT ON!
the 'rare' curcuma he has up there is either a scarlet fever or yunnanensis 'yunnan plume' im thinking scarlet fever tho

and this is what a variegated hibiscus looks like.
~ Chantell

sandy0225 · 09-19-2006, 02:08 PM

I had a basjoo that I inadvertantly planted in a spot where there had been a tree and we had ground down the stump, so I forgot about it. It had variegation until I moved it to a place where it had regular soil. Then it got healthy and green.
Since none of you all have heard about this banana either, it doesn't say good things about it, does it?

jeffreyp · 09-19-2006, 02:28 PM

maybe not...I personally wouldn't pay big bucks for something that's going to quickly grow out of it's white and green variegation anyhow.

tropicalkid · 09-21-2006, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tropicalkid

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-RARE-Variega...QQcmdZViewItem

Opinions please.

Carlos

This one sold for over $200 bucks. I wonder if the variegation will stick with the plant as it grows.

Carlos

tropicalkid · 09-21-2006, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeS475

And another one...

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-EXTREMELY-RA...QQcmdZViewItem

~Joe

This one has still 4 days to go and just one bid so far...

Carlos

Tropicallvr · 09-21-2006, 07:05 PM

I wonder why they bought it? Maybe they have the Ensete propigation tecnique down? I tried propigating this summer with two huge 15 gallon Ensete ventricosum 'Maurelli's, but so far only a crusty looking lump on the soil. I'm thinking I should have tried dividing one of them instead, but maybe they will sprout eventually.

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tropicalkid Senior Member tropicalkid's Photo Gallery Location: Durham, North Carolina Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 233 BananaBucks : 4,941 Feedback: 0 / 0% Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Welcomes: 0	Re: Another new species??? Did everyone notice that every plant they are selling has variegation in it? Either this store only buys/resells variegated lots, or they have their own variegation techniques, hmmmm.... I wonder if the owner shows some variegation, like freckles or something...

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