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Old 09-09-2009, 01:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Cold Winter time question

We are moving to Wilmington NC soon. I think the area we are in is zone 8a near downtown area. Anyhow I can not fit any of my nanners inside the house. Here is the list

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These are all decent size with the tallest being 4.5ft. Now they are all in pots. SO does anyone have any idea as to what I can do to best keep them from dieing or keeping 100% of the trunk? I would figure they would be colder in the pots then in the ground correct? Not like it gets really cold here anyhow though. Maybe by some kind of tarp and have it setup at a angle so they are protected from rain,wind during the cold days. Lowest here was 16* for one day acouple hrs. That was a record. Thanks for any ideas!!
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Old 09-09-2009, 02:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Default Re: Winter time question

I think its too late to put them in the ground and it will be better to put them in big pots.

I am new to nanners so I dont know how to answer your other questions...
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Old 09-09-2009, 03:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey Blonz, Traditionally we have almost two months before first frost maybe more hopefully not less.I think all of your plants are cold hardy in wilmington not sure about a couple. You could plant some and they should dig in before frost,and maybe you will have a new neighbor that will let you use there garage for the others.You could also rent one of those climate control storage units and let them go dormant,how about a crawl space will your new house have that?
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Hey man, nope I have nowhere else to put them but outside.
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Well you could sell some to me.....
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I can't be the only one to run into this situtation?
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i had sabas survive the winter here in middle tn. but....i cropped them down to 4 ft, mulched them heavy, covered them over with a big trash can and then mulched around the can. the mulch was piled outside the can about 2ft tall for some added insulation. last winter for me was for "scientific purposes" on the winterizing of nanas. my uncovered basjoos died to the ground( ones that were not mulched) and these took a long time getting green on them this past spring. the basjoos i did mulch(3ft deep) came back in the same p-stem. my chineese lotus was not mulched and it came back.( the ones i had in the house died.) i also mulched and covered my oronicos the same way i did my sabas. all of my outside nanas came back except my 2 dwarf oronicos and one tc'd basjoo. hope this helps.
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Old 09-10-2009, 11:59 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Jeff,

The lateritas came back no problem although lost whole pstem, but come back to full size with no sun hitting them all winter.

The sikkis because of the trees where they were did not get but maybe 1hr sun and came back.
the basjoos did not lose any pstem last year and grew entire winter with minimal frost damge, ( even witht he 3 16* nights) they are planted on the SE side and get dawn-dusk sun)

the mysore and sabas were Ok until those 3 nights but the 3" pups survived in the ground and now have 10'+ pstems 12"+ diameters.

the muerelli lost a few leaves but came back with no protection.

saw Velutina @ pender pines yesterday that are in the ground.

the ice cream should also be ok

If you are pretty close (within 1/2 mile from downtown) the river will help a lot with the air temps through the winter. the river on one side of me and the ocean on the other really helps me stay a lot warmer, sometimes 5* or more, then the interior of the city/county.

Going to mulch more this year as farmers almanac is predicting a colder then normal winter. it has been spot on in calling for a cooler august and sept.

give a shout when you get moved and settled.
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The corms will overwinter better in the ground mulched heavily, and kept dry, then if you kept them in pots. They are better insulated from freezing that way.

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Thing is I want to keep the p-stems on all these plants. That way they have a head start since they are doing so great. SNC I'm not to familiar of the area we are moving too to explain to you. Hmm lets see we are 2 mins away from downtown,so we are moreless downtown haha.

So what are my best options with trying to protect them in the pots and keep the size on them? If I made some type of hoop house thing and they were right against the house would that help at all? Thanks. Todd what zone would I be? A-B? Okay I will let ya know. Thanks everyone.
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Todd,

Yeah everything Gary has planted out there comes back. He claims the large group of nanners that are next to the brodelen are cavendish? Did you take a good look at them by chance. From what people say and I read there is no way they would be surviving here for years in the ground? Thats where I bought my Velutina that had nanners.
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If you like digging(and who doesn't?) you could build a little underground shelter,in other words-make your own basement
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Thanks Jim. I saw pics of doing that. Still thinking about what I will do.
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Why not dig a hole a little below ground, put the pstems in it, then cover with four feet of leaves and hay, and over this put a tarp. That should give you plenty of insulation for the winter.
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Thing is we are living in a rental house. I can plant and cut my own grass,But I don't think they would be to happy about me digging a hole in the yard.

I want to keep pretty all the p-stem on all these plants. Dave Frankco said that I could plant them all in the ground now,spray them with freeze pruf and mulch them. But they have to be in good draining soil. They are growing in compost in there pots now. So what exactly is good soil for a nanner for winter time in the ground? The soil is sandy I know that for sure. I have about 25 plants I want to protect. Money is tight so can't buy a greenhouse nor would I be a loud to have it. I might just keep them potted up and come up with some kind of protection type hoop house... Buy all the stuff I would need from Home Depot. Wood and that clear painters plastic. Thats how I made some hoop house before and they did okay in Ohio winters. I just want to figure this out ASAP since time is kinda running out for me to plant them. Dave said he planted palms late september in the area he lived. I forget where but more less the same weather as me NC zone 8. I would also maybe wrap the p-stems with bubblewrap.
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I just consider it zone 8 no a or b. 25 in pots? Check with the big greenhouse on market st near gogas. Maybe they will let you keep them there for the winter there like 4 or more so they have room. Maybe at garys? We have at least a good 45 days + before 1st frost
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Since you can't dig a hole, just lay them on top of the soil. This will be the easiest way to overwinter them for zone 8, in my opinion.
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Well my parents live alittle over a hr away. Not as warm as where we are going to live next week. But maybe I could store all these under there house/crawl space? Wonder how well the list of nanners I have would do?

Hey Todd,

Well my mother has a awesome greenhouse,but she has tons of others plants and seedlings she is always growing. So no way any of my plants would fit,maybe just acouple. She keeps to heaters running so lowest it gets is 40's. Think is with veggies in there my EE,nanners had white flies on them. mainly from the tomatoes plants. So I'm worried about that maybe happening at Gary's. What would happen if someone stole them or sold them somehow. Its just hard ot trust people now days anymore.

One thing I thought of also is. Spray with freeze pruf,then use chicken wire and set the pots in it. Then dump a bunch of mulch,pine needles or hay,inside of it and then wrap with bubble wrap on the sides and on top. So that it stays dry,and also make sure the pots don't sit on the ground.Maybe put plastic down or something to help keep the bottom of the pot dry?

Still don't want to take the chance of just letting my cold hardy cactus sitting out in the weather either. So have to think of something to put over top of them to keep them dry. Alot of them are native plants from here,so I don't think they would need any protection even in pots. I'm just paronoid . Thanks Guys!
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The farmers almanac is pretty much right on the colder than normal winter.
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Everything is doing great and still green leaves and stems.
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