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Old 12-15-2016, 04:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Well first year for growing in the ground and wintering. Orinoco , built a cage around 4 feet tall with flexible rubber chicken wire/fencing , cut down main plant to about a foot at an angle for drainage, pups almost to the ground, covered with compost manure mix, mulch, then straw, and wrapped each one with heavy mil black plastic and tarped. Did this a month ago before first frost, now paranoid about colder temps��☹️☹️, wiki banana says zone 7 so hopefully being 6 I can pull it off! I'm uploading a few pics of the start of wrapping them up, I'll update later with final product, been too cold and I've been too busy too take final pics of their winter blanket.

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Old 12-15-2016, 05:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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[quote=Brentp;300979]Well first year for growing in the ground and wintering. Orinoco , built a cage around 4 feet tall with flexible rubber chicken wire/fencing , cut down main plant to about a foot at an angle for drainage, pups almost to the ground, covered with compost manure mix, mulch, then straw, and wrapped each one with heavy mil black plastic and tarped. Did this a month ago before first frost, now paranoid about colder temps��☹️☹️, wiki banana says zone 7 so hopefully being 6 I can pull it off! I'm uploading a few pics of the start of wrapping them up, I'll update later with final product, been too cold and I've been too busy too take final pics of their winter blanket.

Still haven't figured out the pic thing, posted some under my user name let me know your thoughts!! Thanks!!
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Well first year for growing in the ground and wintering. Orinoco , built a cage around 4 feet tall with flexible rubber chicken wire/fencing , cut down main plant to about a foot at an angle for drainage, pups almost to the ground, covered with compost manure mix, mulch, then straw, and wrapped each one with heavy mil black plastic and tarped. Did this a month ago before first frost, now paranoid about colder temps��☹️☹️, wiki banana says zone 7 so hopefully being 6 I can pull it off! I'm uploading a few pics of the start of wrapping them up, I'll update later with final product, been too cold and I've been too busy too take final pics of their winter blanket.
I hate to be the pessimist (and please do update come spring) but I think they're going to be toast. I have dwarf orinoco in the ground here in 9B and I worry about them. I just checked your weather and they are calling for 0F. I'd be shocked if they make it. It's still only December!

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Orinoco in zone 6.. p-stem won't survive. If the base of the plant was wrapped with christmas lights, there would be a better chance.
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Orinoco in zone 6.. p-stem won't survive. If the base of the plant was wrapped with christmas lights, there would be a better chance.
I'm a newb and planted banana's in courtyard area of my house last August. They did extremely well imo and now we had this huge cold snap ~ 26 this morning in Austin. I'm a little bummed since last winter was so warm here. So after a little research here, I'm guessing They'll freeze and I cut them back...... would I wrap the base with lights and leave them on all the time??? I only have 2 groups of trees. Maybe I can post a pic later. Thanks!

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davekleinman, maybe just have them on during the nights that are in the 20's zone 8? you should see new pups in the spring.
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Kansas City gets pretty cold for bananas. Maybe with lots of mulching like you described and some heat tape in a circle on top of the ground plus a mild winter...
I had Gladiolus survive a central Illinois winter one year with no protection at all (REALLY mild winter that year.), so it's possible... but not every year.
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It's dropping here at my home @ 41* here tonight! Getting really cold for my nanners
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I've grown citrus trees from seed, grafted a orange tree, germinated banana seeds, experience with hydroponics, so I have a pretty good green thumb, hopefully they make it through the winter, I've over composted, mulched , built a cage stuffed with straw , and wrapped them up , and then tarped them. I grow my garden plants in 5 gallon buckets so I surrounded them around the ones I left outside, it's an experiment, if I succeed I'll be happy , if not next year I'll try another plan or bring everything inside, don't worry I have backups, these things grew so big this year I had to try!!!!
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It's dropping here at my home @ 41* here tonight! Getting really cold for my nanners
From what I've read and researched is if the rhizome doesn't freeze the plant will survive, cold weather species have a bigger root system to survive these extremes, I don't have Baso but hopefully I can pull it off with a zone 7 plant insulated for winter, first year I've planted them in the ground and I ended up with literally tree trunks , so hopefully being wrapped up, deep root system they'll make it!!!
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From what I've read and researched is if the rhizome doesn't freeze the plant will survive, cold weather species have a bigger root system to survive these extremes, I don't have Baso but hopefully I can pull it off with a zone 7 plant insulated for winter, first year I've planted them in the ground and I ended up with literally tree trunks , so hopefully being wrapped up, deep root system they'll make it!!!
Good luck! I tried overwintering Basjoo last winter here in Denver (zone 6) and lost the p-stem, but it came back from the ground. I bought another one and brought in the p-stem for the winter, keeping it in a cool, dark spot in the basement. It actually grew in there for a while, but looks to be asleep right now.

I think this is going to be a bad winter with what appears to be regular Arctic outbreaks. Another one is coming next week. Uhg!
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Just tossing this out.......when Christmas lights are referenced in all posts as a "heat source" historically the folks are not referring to LED lights.

They are referring to the deeply discounted incandescent mini bulbs that are on sale NOW .....Does not matter what color.

Some say red is the color to go with, but as a Bengals fan I use OraNgE.

When you wrap the stem include a thermometer in there some where to monitor the heat output.

The tighter and closer the light wrap the more heat is produced and directed to the stem. Less is more your goal is above freezing 33 degrees or above

As a test wrap the lights around your arm in various patterns.... you will notice the different heat patterns/concentrations on your arm.

For those whom have raised baby's if is too hot on wrist .....it will be to hot on your plant. Luke warm is Cool.... Warm is UNcOoL....hot is Not.

A Louisiana member whom has not posted in a bit had this down pat( used lights) for his zone for many years

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LEDs do not put out enough heat.
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Just tossing this out.......when Christmas lights are referenced in all posts as a "heat source" historically the folks are not referring to LED lights.

They are referring to the deeply discounted incandescent mini bulbs that are on sale NOW .....Does not matter what color.

Some say red is the color to go with, but as a Bengals fan I use OraNgE.

When you wrap the stem include a thermometer in there some where to monitor the heat output.

The tighter and closer the light wrap the more heat is produced and directed to the stem. Less is more your goal is above freezing 33 degrees or above

As a test wrap the lights around your arm in various patterns.... you will notice the different heat patterns/concentrations on your arm.

For those whom have raised baby's if is too hot on wrist .....it will be to hot on your plant. Luke warm is Cool.... Warm is UNcOoL....hot is Not.

A Louisiana member whom has not posted in a bit had this down pat( used lights) for his zone for many years

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LEDs do not put out enough heat.
Why not use 'water pipe Heat tape" sold at hardware stores to prevent pipe freeze. Most of these have thermostats to turn the tape strip on & off as the outside temp changes.
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Why not use 'water pipe Heat tape" sold at hardware stores to prevent pipe freeze. Most of these have thermostats to turn the tape strip on & off as the outside temp changes.
I like this idea. Found a deal on a two pack on amazon but they are only 6ft long. https://www.amazon.com/BOXING-Weathe...E9N28BTJG9G1PY is where you can find the deal. Apparently they are made to keep your pipes above 45F.
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Why ....heck yes......that works well too.
I was going for for the cost/economical folks.......I am so tight I squeak when I breakdance..

In zone 5,6,7,....dead to the ground.
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I am really considering getting a couple of the 6 footers and at least one 30 ft so I can serpentine it around all of my potted bananas in the garage.
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Some of the fellas just left of you in LA and ARK use them and have great results .....especially when the temps really dip down.
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Why not use 'water pipe Heat tape" sold at hardware stores to prevent pipe freeze. Most of these have thermostats to turn the tape strip on & off as the outside temp changes.
Heat tape is self regulating and will not overheat the area it is in or on.

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Some of the fellas just left of you in LA and ARK use them and have great results .....especially when the temps really dip down.
Sigh, I am starting to wonder if we are ever going to get a winter down here. The closest we got is it hit 30F for a night or two and then shot back up to 70F which it is forecasted to be for the next week.
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