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Dean W. 12-08-2010 06:59 PM

Unprotected bananas in zone 8b
 
It appears a majority of my unprotected bananas have taken some damage. There are a few that have not. They are in micro-climates I suppose close to bushes or the house. Overall it appears some are hardier than others. I need to look at the tags and compare the hardier ones.

Of course the ones in the greenhouse are chugging along. Some yellowing with a slight sign of spider mite infestation.:2738:

enigma99a 12-08-2010 07:10 PM

Re: Unprotected bananas in zone 8b
 
It is possible with this year's strong La Nina that you have Zone 9 temps all winter. If so, will have to test again next year:)

Dean W. 12-08-2010 07:15 PM

Re: Unprotected bananas in zone 8b
 
I heard it may be a warm winter. The P-stems are still intact looks like with little or no damage.

enigma99a 12-08-2010 07:19 PM

Re: Unprotected bananas in zone 8b
 
Wish it was warm for me! LOL in California we had one of the worst Arctic outbreaks in November on record.

Dean W. 12-08-2010 07:21 PM

Re: Unprotected bananas in zone 8b
 
Ya, bet your still warmer than we were.

FRITO 12-08-2010 08:20 PM

Re: Unprotected bananas in zone 8b
 
Dean, What types of bananas are you growing? My nanners just all got frozen for the season. we have had some serious cold!

Basjoo is the toughest in my yard followed by Raja puri, Icecream, ornata, and Orinoco in that order.

Luke

Dean W. 12-09-2010 02:14 PM

Re: Unprotected bananas in zone 8b
 
Hey Frito,

I'm growing all types of bananas. I don't have any Basjoo. I do have Orinoco, Kandarian, and FHIA-18 amongst others. To many to list at the moment going out and making an inventory.

scottu 12-09-2010 08:49 PM

Re: Unprotected bananas in zone 8b
 
You guys are obviously quite bananas!

enigma99a 12-09-2010 09:00 PM

Re: Unprotected bananas in zone 8b
 
How does the Kandarian do in 8B? I've had one for about a year, getting quite big now, but wasn't sure how cold hardy they are

TommyMacLuckie 12-10-2010 11:38 AM

Re: Unprotected bananas in zone 8b
 
Frito, you're the same zone as I am, 8B, not 9B.

TommyMacLuckie 12-10-2010 11:41 AM

Re: Unprotected bananas in zone 8b
 
La Nina has nothing to do with it being a warm winter or not - it's the jet stream. If the La Nina thing was true it wouldn't have gotten down to 26 degrees at my house yesterday morning and it's not even technically winter yet! That's just a myth. It might bring more precipitation but I have yet to see that come true too.

Just as El Nino reduces the chance of hurricanes, the strongest hurricanes to make landfall in the US have all occurred during El Nino summers.

FRITO 12-10-2010 06:54 PM

Re: Unprotected bananas in zone 8b
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TommyMacLuckie (Post 150011)
Frito, you're the same zone as I am, 8B, not 9B.

Never claimed I was 9b. I am in town averaging 9a temps most years, last year I had 18 degrees when the airport recorded 14. I recorded 23and 24 these past few nights but im not measuring air temps like the NWS does, I measure the temps that the plants see with a mecury thermometer under open sky. not a 'weather shelter box' like they have.

Dean W. 12-11-2010 02:42 PM

Re: Unprotected bananas in zone 8b
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by enigma99a (Post 149952)
How does the Kandarian do in 8B? I've had one for about a year, getting quite big now, but wasn't sure how cold hardy they are

Enigma:

Looks like the Kandarian is doing okay. It has some damage.

Here are some of the others...

As you can tell some of the understory suckers are hanging on to their leaves.

Dalmatiansoap 12-11-2010 02:55 PM

Re: Unprotected bananas in zone 8b
 
What was the temp. whan that happend?

Dean W. 12-11-2010 03:02 PM

Re: Unprotected bananas in zone 8b
 
Right around freezing or a little below.

coast crab 12-11-2010 04:29 PM

Re: Unprotected bananas in zone 8b
 
I spent today cutting down my ornata mat to the ground, and the foliage off of everything else that didn't get torn up by the storm that blew through a month ago. P-stems seem fine, but that burned foliage looked terrible so off it came.

Russell

Dean W. 12-11-2010 04:31 PM

Re: Unprotected bananas in zone 8b
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coast crab (Post 150095)
I spent today cutting down my ornata mat to the ground, and the foliage off of everything else that didn't get torn up by the storm that blew through a month ago. P-stems seem fine, but that burned foliage looked terrible so off it came.

Russell

That's true, Russell. It does look terrible, but I thought it might protect from future frost.

I may have to trim mine now. Today is actually pretty warm.

Dalmatiansoap 12-11-2010 04:53 PM

Re: Unprotected bananas in zone 8b
 
Dont cut them off. Use them for stem protection as I did

:nanadrink:

Darkman 12-11-2010 09:34 PM

Re: Unprotected bananas in zone 8b
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalmatiansoap (Post 150097)
Dont cut them off. Use them for stem protection as I did

:nanadrink:

I did he same thing Dalmatiansoap did with a little extra. I took a machetta and cut 3/4 way through from top till they folded down around the P-stem then wrapped them tight. Next I put cage, made out of concrete wire, about two foot in diameter around the plant. I then filled the cage with straw and leaves. Lastly I wrapped the cage with 6 mil translucent plastic and tied the top. I'll know in the spring if it works.

All my leaves browned at 26 degrees.

TommyMacLuckie 12-12-2010 12:54 AM

Re: Unprotected bananas in zone 8b
 
Frito - you're right. I misread your thing - you have your area listed as 9A! You might have temps that are that but reality is you're 8B.

Where I live it has gotten down to 7F but that is not an average. New Orleans has gotten down to 11F the same time but that is not an average.


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