Overwintering Thai Black

jimhardy · 12-20-2010, 06:33 PM

Anyone tried overwintering Thai Black banana plants in a cool basement?

Dean W. · 12-20-2010, 07:47 PM

I haven't, but I heard they are some what hardy so it may survive. Just cut back on watering.

palmtree · 12-20-2010, 10:19 PM

I had my thai black outside until about 2 or 3 weeks ago and it saw a few 30sF. Now its in a very warm room and quickly growing back. I think it would be fine in a cold room also, I just have mine in a really warm room so it can start growing back again.

jimhardy · 12-21-2010, 09:24 AM

Thanks

These are to big to bring inside,about 8' of trunk.
If they overwinter they should be quite spectacular next year!

natej740 · 12-21-2010, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimhardy

Thanks

These are to big to bring inside,about 8' of trunk.
If they overwinter they should be quite spectacular next year!

How did you overwinter yours? I kept mine in a pot and brought it inside but the spider mites effed it up pretty good so i had to chop all the leaves off. I was thinking about just taking it down to the basement and trying to store it dormant but im not real sure what to do with it yet...

jimhardy · 12-22-2010, 10:04 AM

Don't get me started on WSM !

My Thai blacks grew from little 3" plugs to 7-8' of trunk last year.

I dug them up and stored them in the basement with my other Banana plants.

In the following pic you can see one of the Thai blacks,the trunk is,well,black(-;
there is another one in the pic with a greener trunk,they both look about the same as when I put them down there.
You can see why I think they will be monsters next year,starting out this big!

Anyway,here's the pic,1 gallon paint can for scale-(-:

wxman · 12-24-2010, 10:23 PM

If you want to get rid of mites, raise the humidity in your home. I run humidifiers to keep the humidity at 60%. No mite problems and I can breathe easier too.

None of my indoor bananas have mites and I didn't put any to sleep. All are growing. Basjoo, orinoco, ensete maurelii and siam ruby.

redflash · 01-05-2011, 12:27 PM

Hello,
i have read here about overwintering thai black. I have a thai black, i m overwintering + 10 celsius / + 50 farenheit.

A picture of my thai black you can see here:

Bananen-Info

I have an bigger thai black too, overwintering warm + 22 celsius / 70 farenheit, its i good method too, but the cool-overwintering is easy, because you dont worry about it (give water for excample)

Andreas

jimhardy · 01-05-2011, 04:44 PM

Thanks for the reply,

last time I checked mine looked fine in the basement.

palmtree · 01-05-2011, 10:18 PM

Jim, where did you buy your banana plants and do you give them anything special for them to grow so fast! Thats a lot of growth!!!

jimhardy · 01-06-2011, 09:57 AM

I think they came from Brian's botanicals on E-bay.

Yea,they really grew fast!

Their growing style of putting out leaves in a really stretched out fashion gets some serious height on them fast.

They ought to at least double this year if all goes well,I wonder if my small Saba can catch them?

palmtree · 01-06-2011, 03:48 PM

Thanks! I got my saba from them this past september. So far its growing well indoors and I hope that it will really grow in height and diameter this summer! I would love to see some fruit from one of my banana plants some day!

jimhardy · 01-06-2011, 05:08 PM

You bet.

I am looking forward to seeing how much my Saba grows this year,it is also doing great inside!

I had my first flowering Nana last season(to late for ripe fruit),it really was exciting!

saltydad · 01-06-2011, 07:02 PM

I've always found Brian to have excellent stock and great service.

palmtree · 01-06-2011, 08:29 PM

Too bad you couldnt get edible fruit in time jim, but any fruit north of a zone 9 is a major accomplishment to me! I cant even imagine getting fruit from any of my banana plants so I hope they surprise me! Just the look of the flowers and fruit of banana plants are more than enough to make me happy!

jimhardy · 01-07-2011, 10:14 AM

Totally agree about Brian(-:

Alex

I was really surprised it bloomed considering it's size but it was at least(?) 3 years old.

Some of the babies are in the picture I posted showing how I stored them....
they are even bigger,so possibly they could fruit earlier(although they are younger),with the help of a warm spring/early summer(-:

palmtree · 01-07-2011, 06:40 PM

I think a great start to spring is the best way to get bananas to start growing. Some hot weather in april should be all they need to break their dormancy and start rapidly growing. Last summer was very hot and I really hope that this summer is the same!

jimhardy · 01-09-2011, 11:08 AM

Yea,I agree.

We had some really warm weather in April and the Bananas blasted off!

It cooled down a little the first 3 weeks of May but by the 20th or so we put together a streak that went like 70-80 days where temps went to 80 or higher with something like 40-50" of rain-needless to say...Banana weather!

We also had some of the highest dewpoints I have ever seen,we had a 3 day stretch in June where the dewpoints hit 86F !!!!

I didn't know it could get that high,one of those days the heat index was like 134F.

The Nanars loved it!

palmtree · 01-09-2011, 03:56 PM

That is a ton of heat! We broke the highest night temp ever last summer. One night didnt get below 86F!!! Very few days in July were below 90F. I love that weather and so do the bananas and most of my tropical plants. Even my parlor palm didnt seem to mind the heat (because it was in shade).

RayS · 09-18-2011, 12:19 PM

Maybe a couple of you guys could post pics of your T. Blacks now that we are reaching the end of the season. Thanks

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jimhardy Jimhardy Location: Fairfield Iowa Find me on the map! Zone: 52556 Name: Jim Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 131 BananaBucks : 28,381 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 15 Times Was Thanked 180 Times in 73 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: Overwintering Thai Black Totally agree about Brian(-: Alex I was really surprised it bloomed considering it's size but it was at least(?) 3 years old. Some of the babies are in the picture I posted showing how I stored them.... they are even bigger,so possibly they could fruit earlier(although they are younger),with the help of a warm spring/early summer(-:

01-07-2011, 06:40 PM	#17 (permalink)
palmtree palmtree's Photo Gallery Location: New York City Find me on the map! Zone: 7b Name: Alex C Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,016 BananaBucks : 133,470 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 1,492 Times Was Thanked 1,428 Times in 644 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 103 Times	Re: Overwintering Thai Black I think a great start to spring is the best way to get bananas to start growing. Some hot weather in april should be all they need to break their dormancy and start rapidly growing. Last summer was very hot and I really hope that this summer is the same! __________________ Location: New York City, zone 7b

01-09-2011, 11:08 AM	#18 (permalink)
jimhardy Jimhardy Location: Fairfield Iowa Find me on the map! Zone: 52556 Name: Jim Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 131 BananaBucks : 28,381 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 15 Times Was Thanked 180 Times in 73 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: Overwintering Thai Black Yea,I agree. We had some really warm weather in April and the Bananas blasted off! It cooled down a little the first 3 weeks of May but by the 20th or so we put together a streak that went like 70-80 days where temps went to 80 or higher with something like 40-50" of rain-needless to say...Banana weather! We also had some of the highest dewpoints I have ever seen,we had a 3 day stretch in June where the dewpoints hit 86F !!!! I didn't know it could get that high,one of those days the heat index was like 134F. The Nanars loved it!

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palmtree palmtree's Photo Gallery Location: New York City Find me on the map! Zone: 7b Name: Alex C Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,016 BananaBucks : 133,470 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 1,492 Times Was Thanked 1,428 Times in 644 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 103 Times	Re: Overwintering Thai Black That is a ton of heat! We broke the highest night temp ever last summer. One night didnt get below 86F!!! Very few days in July were below 90F. I love that weather and so do the bananas and most of my tropical plants. Even my parlor palm didnt seem to mind the heat (because it was in shade). __________________ Location: New York City, zone 7b

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