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Old 03-06-2016, 01:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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I have two matts of basjoo in my yard that overwinter fine.
In the past I've always cut them back about 18" tall in the fall but last year I left them at about 4 feet. Is this preferable or does it just leave more stuff for the new plant to push through? The p-stems still feel firm, I covered them with a tarp over the winter to keep rain out of them.
I guess my question is, are these p-stems likely full of living plant or are they just in the way of new growth coming from the corm.



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Start slicing from top of one of them till you get some green.
that will probably give you the answer.
And for a good photo cut one in half and share the photo to your thread.
That would be cool.

Since they are erect I bet there is some green in the middle somewhere.

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good idea
I cut about 6" off the tallest one
the inside is not green but it's not mush, nice and firm
I think I feel good about it
it's supposed to be in the 70's here next week and spring fever is driving me nuts. I'm ready for some green
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good idea
I cut about 6" off the tallest one
the inside is not green but it's not mush, nice and firm
I think I feel good about it
it's supposed to be in the 70's here next week and spring fever is driving me nuts. I'm ready for some green
Those are great pics they even show the small push at the end of the season.
Looks like the cold stopped that leaf in its tracks.

Although that part of the stem is dead there might be some green lower to the soil. If there isn't I would cut all the plants back to your original plan.

If you do cut into green do not worry ....it is just the top of the next leaf.

Since the stem is still firm the new growth could have a challenge breaching and could cause a choke.

I went out and got nosy also and pulled the stem off the corm........dead/mushy to the ground.
The small "tail" was the next leaf to sprout from last year.

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that "dead/mush to the ground" is why I started covering everything with a tarp
I think around here, where the winters aren't really all that cold, getting wet and rotting is a bigger problem than the temp for basjoo
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I'm overwintering my basjoo for the first time here in Denver. It's wrapped/covered/mulched. The stem was about 4' tall when I covered it (overall plant got up to around 6' last summer), but if it dies back to the ground, how much growth could I expect this summer? Last frost is late April to early May. Last fall, it lasted until the first few days of November.
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my experience is if a plant like that makes through winter it will get pretty big this year
the corm has had a year to get going
your winters are colder than mine but it sounds like you protected it well
did you cover it with a tarp? I think it helps to keep em dry to prevent the freeze/thaw cycle but like I said it's warmer here so that may be more of an issue

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my experience is if a plant like that makes through winter it will get pretty big this year
the corm has had a year to get going
your winters are colder than mine but it sounds like you protected it well
did you cover it with a tarp? I think it helps to keep em dry to prevent the freeze/thaw cycle but like I said it's warmer here so that may be more of an issue

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Yes, they were covered and kept dry. I also sprayed them with an anti-fungal spray early November right after the frost killed the leaves, and I let them dry for a few days before covering them.
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if you left it 4' tall then you're in the same boat as me
I started this thread because I was wondering if I should cut some of the stem off fearing the top part is dead and will hinder the emergence of new growth.
It looks like it's going to be an early spring here and I think I'm going to cut them back till I find some green
weather man says it's going to be 70's in the day and above 50 at night for next 10 days. By then danger of a hard freeze is about over
sounds like you still have some waiting to do

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here's an ensete glaucom I just dragged out of the living room into the sun
it was getting kinda sick of the low light
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if you left it 4' tall then you're in the same boat as me
I started this thread because I was wondering if I should cut some of the stem off fearing the top part is dead and will hinder the emergence of new growth.
It looks like it's going to be an early spring here and I think I'm going to cut them back till I find some green
weather man says it's going to be 70's in the day and above 50 at night for next 10 days. By then danger of a hard freeze is about over
sounds like you still have some waiting to do

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Last weekend while doing some gardening, I felt inside and the tall stem is definitely mush at the top, but feels hard toward the bottom. I was worried about that, but it sounds like I'll just cut it down to wherever it's no mush/soft and grow from there.
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ok, here's a pic of the p-stem I cut off the other day showing growth pushing up
it's close to 80 today and will be for next 10 days
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I'm just letting mine grow out of the dieback. Should I trim off all of the dead stuff or let it do its thing?

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snarkie,

I was typing out a reply and looked out the window and changed my mind ;-)
the one I cut off is on the right and has pushed out another 6"
the next one over moving left pushed all that out in last 2 days with no help
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I was typing out a reply and looked out the window and changed my mind ;-)
the one I cut off is on the right and has pushed out another 6"
the next one over moving left pushed all that out in last 2 days with no help
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I wasn't going to cut mine back, but I think I will trim off all of the loose stuff.

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the weather is so nice today I couldn't stand it and went and cut a couple inches off them all to get rid of the scared material from the winter.
a few of them look to be pushing new growth after just a few hours
I also started digging through the mulch I covered everything with and found 2 nice looking orinocos that look pretty good and a few colocasias
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I cut one off about 4" above ground. Piled on bark mulch and straw but did not cover with tarp. Uncovered couple of days ago and found mush. Don't know about corm yet but it may be toast. I believe just trying to protect from freezing is not the only issue. Keeping dry must be just as important. I'm glad this one was just an experiment. I have several varieties that I did cover with a tarp that are fine.

I need to change my statement concerning the process of covering with a tarp. I now think covering with a tarp or closed bag traps condensation and keeps corm too wet causing rot. No more for me. Sorry for the bad information.
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It sure does make them look better.
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