Musa 'Helens Hybrid' fruit picture RPS

Tropicallvr · 09-06-2008, 02:15 PM

Rare palm seeds now has a picture of Musa 'Helens Hybrid' fruit. It doesn't look anything like Musa 'Chimi Champa's fruit. The picture has made me question weather this is actually a hybrid with that edible banana or something else. After scouring many sites, all that I've come up with is that it was 'discovered', and not actually crossed by hand, and it's "thought" to be a hybrid between those two species.
Here's the RPS pic- http://www.rarepalmseeds.com/pix/MusHyb.shtml
I doubt they have been hand pollinating the Helen's, so it's most likely self seeding like veluntina. The fruits look alot more like the Musa 'Balboa Park' fruits than, chimi IMO, and my little plants share a resemblence also.

asacomm · 09-06-2008, 07:20 PM

These pictures have been released since long before and nothing new to us.
Only quite few people actually saw its flowing and fruits without releasing
more informations and pictures.
So everyones are longing for the latest infos with pics so as to its ｆlowing
and fuits.

Tropicallvr · 09-06-2008, 09:43 PM

Some more info would be nice. Seems like they didn't have that extra picture up there before, but I haven't checked for a while so you're probably right.
Maybe the fruits will be different depending on the various forms that are said to have sprouted. I just wish the info on it was a little more up front in how it was found, and what led them to believe it was a Chimi champa hybrid and not some other random hybrid. I'd like to hybridize it with something, but maybe just for pollen if it is self pollinating.
If anybody has any inside scoop on it's origins that would be great.

tony palmer · 09-07-2008, 12:06 PM

Kyle, I have come to the conclusion that when buying seeds or bananas plants from north east India or Yunnan China, we have to take it with a pinch of salt as regarding there true origins.
In India and China for hundreds if not thousands of years there importance was determined by their use and not by their true origins.

I should ad that there are some very good botanists in china and Yunnan but sadly they’re not the ones selling the seeds/plants

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