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Old 03-10-2008, 08:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default Musa Dwart Orinoco

That variety has been my most cold hardy plant and produces very good fruit. It is reported by some that it is what the California folks are calling California Gold - or a close relative. Mine has survived hits to 19 degrees F.

I have been looking for a source for a few more as mine does not produce pups very often for some reason. TheOrchidGalllery@AOL.com provided me with five healthy specimens, packaged with the greatest TLC I've ever witnessed and at a great price with low shipping.
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Old 03-10-2008, 10:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 03-10-2008, 10:31 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Congrats on the Dwarf Orinoco.
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i bought 3 d. oronoco from a member here at the nan org, one of them has 2 pups on it and the others are just growing. send me a pm and ill let you know who i got mine from and maybe he has more to sell.
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are normal Orinocos aslo that hardy?
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I planted mine on the ground when I found out they were cold hardy. I just started to fertilize them and hopefully they will take off this summer.
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My Dw Orinoco suffered cold damage to the pup (had to cut the top 1/3 off), but the main pstem is pushing out a new leaf. My CA Gold is shorter, more hardy, started growing earlier, and is growing faster than my Dw. Orinoco is.
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Does anyone sell that variety to folks outside of CA?
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I can keep my orinocos in the ground wrapping them with bubble wrap over the winter and the stem survives. I am about 30 mintues from the coast in NC so I think thats pretty good for a banana here. All my other ones psuedostems did not survive under my house this winter. The corms seem ok, but I will not know until this spring if they really are.
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I bought, thru ebay, a roof and gutter deicing kit. Mine has 100 feet of heating cable. Spiral wrapped the bananas with the cable (did five with one cable), the wrapped the pstems with cargo blankets (from Harbor Freight at about $4.50 ea), put a black plastic bag on their heads, and plugged those babies in about 12 hours before expected temps below freezing. Went to 19 one night and stayed below freezing for close to 12 hours. Two or three other PM's at about 25 and a few at 30. The dwarf O was too far away for the cable so I put a drop lamp with a 150 w bulb in the bottom of the blanket wrap.

All plants have been shooting new growth since the first of the month. Last year I lost all but the dwarf O.
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Does anyone sell that variety to folks outside of CA?
Jeff Earl sells a few every year on Ebay. He's also a member here (although not very active...). Other members here also sell or trade them. I have 2 pups, but one is spoken for, and the other is next year's daughter.
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Grow Your Love of Gardening into a Profitable Greenhouse Business!

I've bought two Dwarf Orinocos, one Saba and one Basjoo from here and have been happy with them. They are TC, arrive in a baggie of dirt with a stick of fertilizer and are over 12" tall.
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Thanks CookieCows. I have purchased most of my plants from Ted at GreenEarth Inc. Grow Your Love of Gardening into a Profitable Greenhouse Business!. He is a great guy to do business with and has quality plants.
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Jeff Earl sells a few every year on Ebay. He's also a member here (although not very active...). Other members here also sell or trade them. I have 2 pups, but one is spoken for, and the other is next year's daughter.
I would like to get one too ,unfortunately I think it's impossible here in France!
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I have been looking for a source for a few more as mine does not produce pups very often for some reason.
Is it possible that TC plants don't produce pups as readily? But even if that would be so, the pup of a TC would no longer have any TC related problems would they? (If even TC plants have any weaker characteristics and I don't know if they do. I don't even have any grown plants of my own yet!!!)
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Regarding tissue culture plants, my ice cream and lady fingers are TC's from Ted and they throw pups so fast I can't cut 'em off.
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Regarding tissue culture plants, my ice cream and lady fingers are TC's from Ted and they throw pups so fast I can't cut 'em off.
That definitly answers that question then!
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Grow Your Love of Gardening into a Profitable Greenhouse Business!

I've bought two Dwarf Orinocos, one Saba and one Basjoo from here and have been happy with them. They are TC, arrive in a baggie of dirt with a stick of fertilizer and are over 12" tall.
I got my first plants from them and they sent quality plants that've grown wonderfully. I ordered a second time and they promptly (and without problems) replaced an order that got tore up by the USPS. If only more online stores were like this one! They also have some of the best prices around...IMHO...

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Is it possible that TC plants don't produce pups as readily? But even if that would be so, the pup of a TC would no longer have any TC related problems would they? (If even TC plants have any weaker characteristics and I don't know if they do. I don't even have any grown plants of my own yet!!!)
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After 3 months in the ground, you couldn't tell mine came TC compared to pups. They also throw pups off very well. I've found pupping to be related more to the variety than where the plants came from, or their mass production method.
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