Bananas.org

Welcome to the Bananas.org forums.

You're currently viewing our message boards as a guest which gives you limited access to participate in discussions and access our other features such as our wiki and photo gallery. By joining our community, you'll have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Go Back   Bananas.org > Banana Forum > Cold Hardy Bananas
The Facebook Platform
Register Photo Gallery Classifieds Wiki Chat Map Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Cold Hardy Bananas This forum is dedicated to the discussion of bananas that are able to grow and thrive in cold areas. You'll find lots of tips and discussions about keeping your bananas over the winter.


Members currently in the chatroom: 0
The most chatters online in one day was 17, 09-06-2009.
No one is currently using the chat.

Reply   Email this Page Email this Page
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-08-2017, 02:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
Location: Monticelli brusati
Zone: 8b
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 32
BananaBucks : 5,218
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 1 Times
Was Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times
Default Materials for protect stem of musa in winter

Good evening,i would like to know which materials are betters for protect the stem of musa in winter (hessian,straw, leaves, plastic, fabric?)
Dario80 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Dario80
Said thanks:

Join Bananas.org Today!

Are you a banana plant enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Bananas.org is owned and operated by fellow banana plant enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information. Receive all three issues from Volume 1 of Bananas Magazine with your membership:
   

Join Bananas.org Today! - Click Here


Sponsors

Old 02-08-2017, 03:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
Iowa's Avatar
 
Location: Burlington,Iowa
Zone: 5
Name: Mike
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 100
BananaBucks : 1,148
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 93 Times
Was Thanked 116 Times in 46 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 96 Times
Default Re: Materials for protect stem of musa in winter

I have seen bubble wrap used for this, look on YouTube I think that's where I saw it. I bring mine inside and store them bare root.
Iowa is online now   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Iowa
Said thanks:
Old 02-08-2017, 04:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
Location: Monticelli brusati
Zone: 8b
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 32
BananaBucks : 5,218
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 1 Times
Was Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times
Default Re: Materials for protect stem of musa in winter

And outdoor mode?
Dario80 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Dario80
Old 02-08-2017, 05:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
Iowa's Avatar
 
Location: Burlington,Iowa
Zone: 5
Name: Mike
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 100
BananaBucks : 1,148
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 93 Times
Was Thanked 116 Times in 46 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 96 Times
Default Re: Materials for protect stem of musa in winter

I think they rapped it twice with bubble wrap and then put a plastic bag with the bottom open over it and filled it with leaves and or mulch.
Iowa is online now   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Iowa
Old 02-08-2017, 05:42 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
Location: Monticelli brusati
Zone: 8b
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 32
BananaBucks : 5,218
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 1 Times
Was Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times
Default Re: Materials for protect stem of musa in winter

the bubble wrap does not take moisture condenses when it rains?
Dario80 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Dario80
Sponsors

Old 02-08-2017, 05:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
subsonicdrone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 191
BananaBucks : 227
Feedback: 2 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 875 Times
Was Thanked 404 Times in 148 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times
Default Re: Materials for protect stem of musa in winter

what variety of banana plant?

what temp do you expect it to get down to through a winter in youre area?

Last edited by subsonicdrone : 02-08-2017 at 06:02 PM.
subsonicdrone is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To subsonicdrone
Old 02-08-2017, 06:11 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
Location: Monticelli brusati
Zone: 8b
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 32
BananaBucks : 5,218
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 1 Times
Was Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times
Default Re: Materials for protect stem of musa in winter

my zone is north italy ,minimum of this year was - 8 celsius and - 5 for all month of genuary ,i have helen's hybrid not protected the stem is died ,i would like to buy ice cream blue java and dwarf brazilian but not know if it resist to this temperature outdoor..
Dario80 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Dario80
Old 02-08-2017, 06:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
subsonicdrone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 191
BananaBucks : 227
Feedback: 2 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 875 Times
Was Thanked 404 Times in 148 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times
Default Re: Materials for protect stem of musa in winter

i dont actually know the Best* way to overwinter each of those varieties

check out kaczercat's hoop house:
Greenhouse

could you construct something like this?
subsonicdrone is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To subsonicdrone
Old 02-08-2017, 08:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
Container Grower
 
cincinnana's Avatar
 
Location: Southwest Ohio U.S.A
Zone: HZ 6/5 Microclimate - Elevation 750 feet- 228.60 meters
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,143
BananaBucks : 15,825
Feedback: 3 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 2,908 Times
Was Thanked 5,987 Times in 2,319 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,208 Times
Smile Re: Materials for protect stem of musa in winter

This is D's grow zone.
Link is below.


Exactly what northern town do you live in.... It does matter..

The plants you want to grow outside will not do well in the northern green /tan areas .

Your climate is very somewhat similiar to mine which means your choices of plants will NOT survive the winter in the ground.

Musa basjoo would work in your zone for it is a cold hardy ornamental.

I use wood chips and mulch to cover the plants.
And some of the other members on the forum use leaves , bags of leaves ,tarps over mulch, heavy layer of yard waste, you can use anything that puts distance from the freezing air above the soil line and the ground.

Youtube has some great videos of methods to overwinter plants....Keyword " overwinter basjoo"

Check out the supplied links.



Italy Interactive Plant Hardiness Zone Map
__________________



Last edited by cincinnana : 02-25-2017 at 03:45 PM. Reason: Typo
cincinnana is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To cincinnana
Old 02-09-2017, 12:04 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
Location: Denver, CO
Zone: 6
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 80
BananaBucks : 2,012
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 11 Times
Was Thanked 95 Times in 52 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times
Default Re: Materials for protect stem of musa in winter

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa View Post
I have seen bubble wrap used for this, look on YouTube I think that's where I saw it. I bring mine inside and store them bare root.
That's what I've done this winter. Brought it in and it's in a dark, cool storage room in the basement. I checked on it the other day and it's still there, upright. Although the stem is ever so slightly soft. Is that ok? Or do I need to do something? Moisten the roots?
Denverian is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Denverian
Said thanks:
Old 02-09-2017, 01:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
Iowa's Avatar
 
Location: Burlington,Iowa
Zone: 5
Name: Mike
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 100
BananaBucks : 1,148
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 93 Times
Was Thanked 116 Times in 46 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 96 Times
Default Re: Materials for protect stem of musa in winter

Don't water it to much, the ones I have bare root won't get water until April they were dug up in late October. Some of the smaller pups may not make it.
I have some in pots that I gave about a cup of water each yesterday, first they have had since October. These are all 'Orinoco'
Iowa is online now   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Iowa
Said thanks:
Old 02-09-2017, 02:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
Location: Monticelli brusati
Zone: 8b
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 32
BananaBucks : 5,218
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 1 Times
Was Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times
Default Re: Materials for protect stem of musa in winter

i watched on youtube that they cover the stem with bubblewrap and outside with black bag filled of straw but i would like to know if the bag of plastic and the bubblewrap over the stem not creates umidity and water at the stem?is not possible used outside the non-woven?and is necessary also cover with bubblewrap the stem or is sufficient cover with a bag filled of straw or leaves?
Thanks
Dario80 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Dario80
Old 02-09-2017, 03:23 PM   #13 (permalink)
 
subsonicdrone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 191
BananaBucks : 227
Feedback: 2 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 875 Times
Was Thanked 404 Times in 148 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times
Default Re: Materials for protect stem of musa in winter

my vote is for anything but bubble wrap
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/...44_306x516.jpg
subsonicdrone is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To subsonicdrone
Old 02-09-2017, 03:30 PM   #14 (permalink)
 
Iowa's Avatar
 
Location: Burlington,Iowa
Zone: 5
Name: Mike
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 100
BananaBucks : 1,148
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 93 Times
Was Thanked 116 Times in 46 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 96 Times
Default Re: Materials for protect stem of musa in winter

It would depend on how wet your weather is, something that you would have to keep an eye on I quess. If you can it's best to get them out of the weather. Mine are to tall for the basement so they are layed over in a pile. I have tried last year but with no luck to winter over a couple trees. I think the corms were spent, I took all the pups off. This year I cut a couple trees and pups about 6" high and piled mulch over them, we will see what happens.
Iowa is online now   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Iowa
Said thanks:
Old 02-09-2017, 05:53 PM   #15 (permalink)
 
Location: Denver, CO
Zone: 6
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 80
BananaBucks : 2,012
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 11 Times
Was Thanked 95 Times in 52 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times
Default Re: Materials for protect stem of musa in winter

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa View Post
It would depend on how wet your weather is, something that you would have to keep an eye on I quess. If you can it's best to get them out of the weather. Mine are to tall for the basement so they are layed over in a pile. I have tried last year but with no luck to winter over a couple trees. I think the corms were spent, I took all the pups off. This year I cut a couple trees and pups about 6" high and piled mulch over them, we will see what happens.
Bubble wrap didn't work for me last year. I dug up my biggest one (probably 5' tall after chopping the top off) and have it in the basement. For all the pups, I mulched them, then a layer of plastic, then more mulch over that. They should come back from the ground.
Denverian is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Denverian
Old 02-09-2017, 06:03 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
Location: Denver, CO
Zone: 6
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 80
BananaBucks : 2,012
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 11 Times
Was Thanked 95 Times in 52 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times
Default Re: Materials for protect stem of musa in winter

This Spring when I put my hibernating stalk back in the ground, I'm thinking about digging the hole bigger and putting in better soil. I have horrible clay soil. I thought I got decent growth this past summer with a new Basjoo, but looking at others' pictures, my growth was pathetic. Would clay soil prevent faster growth?
Denverian is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Denverian

Join Bananas.org Today!

Are you a banana plant enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Bananas.org is owned and operated by fellow banana plant enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information. Receive all three issues from Volume 1 of Bananas Magazine with your membership:
   

Join Bananas.org Today! - Click Here


Sponsors

Old 02-09-2017, 06:17 PM   #17 (permalink)
 
Iowa's Avatar
 
Location: Burlington,Iowa
Zone: 5
Name: Mike
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 100
BananaBucks : 1,148
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 93 Times
Was Thanked 116 Times in 46 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 96 Times
Default Re: Materials for protect stem of musa in winter

Good soil will help, my brother in Arkansas gave me my first tree. He has a longer growing season but my soil here is much better than his. And it shows.
Iowa is online now   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Iowa
Old 02-10-2017, 03:56 AM   #18 (permalink)
banana cereal killer
 
beam2050's Avatar
 
Location: middleburg fl.
Zone: 9
Name: walkinbeam
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 670
BananaBucks : 280
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 1,562 Times
Was Thanked 931 Times in 454 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 270 Times
Default Re: Materials for protect stem of musa in winter

Quote:
Originally Posted by Denverian View Post
This Spring when I put my hibernating stalk back in the ground, I'm thinking about digging the hole bigger and putting in better soil. I have horrible clay soil. I thought I got decent growth this past summer with a new Basjoo, but looking at others' pictures, my growth was pathetic. Would clay soil prevent faster growth?
your soil is great for wheat, oats and buffalo grass. rule of thumb, it takes 5 years for water to go thru an inch of clay. now that's all depending on density and purity and all that jazz. farmers on the plains put in wind rows to hold the snow so it will soak into the soil and make their crops grow. your hole can tend to act like a pot and hold water, this your banana will not like. if your hole drains well or fairly descent it might be ok. where you are sometimes you can get into gravel or sand and you might get good drainage depends on what the glacier dropped underneath you property. if you ain't nothin but clay and your hole holds water you may try a top soil and your soil mix. good luck

Last edited by beam2050 : 02-10-2017 at 04:10 AM.
beam2050 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To beam2050
Said thanks:
Old 02-10-2017, 10:36 AM   #19 (permalink)
 
Location: Denver, CO
Zone: 6
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 80
BananaBucks : 2,012
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 11 Times
Was Thanked 95 Times in 52 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times
Default Re: Materials for protect stem of musa in winter

Quote:
Originally Posted by beam2050 View Post
your soil is great for wheat, oats and buffalo grass. rule of thumb, it takes 5 years for water to go thru an inch of clay. now that's all depending on density and purity and all that jazz. farmers on the plains put in wind rows to hold the snow so it will soak into the soil and make their crops grow. your hole can tend to act like a pot and hold water, this your banana will not like. if your hole drains well or fairly descent it might be ok. where you are sometimes you can get into gravel or sand and you might get good drainage depends on what the glacier dropped underneath you property. if you ain't nothin but clay and your hole holds water you may try a top soil and your soil mix. good luck
Thanks! Unfortunately, I'm not into growing oats or wheat lol! I get decent growth, but I don't think I'm getting what others do. I'll try doubling the hole depth this year and adding sandy soil.
Denverian is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Denverian
Said thanks:
Old 02-11-2017, 08:22 PM   #20 (permalink)
Container Grower
 
cincinnana's Avatar
 
Location: Southwest Ohio U.S.A
Zone: HZ 6/5 Microclimate - Elevation 750 feet- 228.60 meters
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,143
BananaBucks : 15,825
Feedback: 3 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 2,908 Times
Was Thanked 5,987 Times in 2,319 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,208 Times
Smile Re: Materials for protect stem of musa in winter

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dario80 View Post
Good evening,i would like to know which materials are betters for protect the stem of musa in winter (hessian,straw, leaves, plastic, fabric?)
Dario80,

You might want to consider growing your plants in containers because your climate will not support tropicals, this is somewhat an easy task is your area.

There are many threads in the forums which support successful container growing and soilless mix's which are great for you area.

And Youtube offers many informative videos which are awesome.
__________________



Last edited by cincinnana : 02-11-2017 at 08:35 PM.
cincinnana is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To cincinnana
Said thanks:
Sponsors

Reply   Email this Page Email this Page






Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Do you have to protect musa basjoo? Eric1221 Cold Hardy Bananas 61 04-16-2017 08:15 AM
Has anybody tried heaping soil over the P-stem to help them winter over? (Kansas) Terri Cold Hardy Bananas 8 02-03-2013 05:48 PM
Do i need to protect in the winter? Kostas Main Banana Discussion 6 11-20-2010 01:34 PM
What Is The Best Way To Protect A Musa Basjoo For Winter???? natej740 Cold Hardy Bananas 52 10-30-2010 09:58 AM
straw mulch as good as leaves for winter protection of p-stem? nph Cold Hardy Bananas 4 06-06-2010 11:25 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:16 PM.





Follow us:
Twitter YouTube

All content © Bananas.org & the respective author.