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Old 06-01-2008, 09:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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One of my basjoos is growing from the center of last years pseudostem, but the other died to the ground and is sending up about seven pups.Some are over a foot (stem) tall now.If I left everything alone, would it it the decrease the height of the plants? I don't want to damage the main corm by separating any at this point. I wouldn't mind a big mat, but I want some height also.My success rate of separating pups is about 30%.
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Old 06-01-2008, 09:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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I, personally, would leave them alone. If you don't mind a larger mat, they would probably do fine as is and not affect the height. If you take pups, I would think the plant would spend more energy "healing" itself and that may hamper overall growth. I would pump the fert to them and water, water, water!!! Good luck...
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Thanks Randy, this stuff sure is fun!
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yes this stuff is great and fun...but it is also nerve racking! when i go outside to look at my nanas all i keep thinking is grow,grow,grow.
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You and me both MissKitty...LOL
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Isn't that something!
I was outside in the garden all day today working; and all I thought and said was.........
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isnt it amazing how great minds think alike?
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Sure you right!!!!!!
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Magicgreen, Iam in zone 6 also. With our short growing season we look for daily growth and hope for sweltering weather,LOL
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Magicgreen, Iam in zone 6 also. With our short growing season we look for daily growth and hope for sweltering weather,LOL
We're in Zone 8-9 in Seattle, though we probably have a shorter growing season than where you guys are. And we, too, hope for sweltering weather, though we never have it. We would be lucky if we even get a full week of 80°F weather.
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...but you can grow large windmill palms and other goodys Chong. LOL
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i always talk to my plants.

the washingtonia.F i talk to grows alot faster then others, my nana does not grow fast at all maybe he does not like me lol
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misskitty, "you put the lime in the coconut" was written and performed by Harry Nillson
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...but you can grow large windmill palms and other goodys Chong. LOL
The keyword is "large". If I were to plant small plants, they wouldn't last the first winter.
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Wow Chong, I thought Trachys thrived in your area. You see big specimens in Vancouver. They seem to like the cooler winter. We have them come back in zone 6 with protection.
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misskitty, "you put the lime in the coconut" was written and performed by Harry Nillson
yes thats true, but jimmy buffet did a remix of it. and im a jimmy buffet freak.
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Wow Chong, I thought Trachys thrived in your area. You see big specimens in Vancouver. They seem to like the cooler winter. We have them come back in zone 6 with protection.

You are correct. I had it confused with Washingtonia palm. They look alike. Trachycarpus fortunei hardiness is listed as 7b to 10. I thought that Vancouver (either WA or BC) was in Zone 8.
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You are correct. I had it confused with Washingtonia palm. They look alike. Trachycarpus fortunei hardiness is listed as 7b to 10. I thought that Vancouver (either WA or BC) was in Zone 8.
Ouch, Chong!!! You sure know how to hurt a palm fanatic like myself... Take a good closer look at both the Trachy and the Washy. HUGE difference...
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Ouch, Chong!!! You sure know how to hurt a palm fanatic like myself... Take a good closer look at both the Trachy and the Washy. HUGE difference...
S-o-o-o-r-r-y! I guess I should take a closer look. Just that in my neck of the woods, I don't see very many of them. Plus, my wife dreads the sawblade like petioles of these plants.

My closest, if not intimate, encounters with palms have only been with the following varieties: cocos nucifera, corypha elata, arenga pinnata, nypa fruticans, phoenix dactylifera, and phoenix roebelenii. The first five of which are food plants, of which in turn, 4 have uses for housing, clothing, and crafts where I come from. The last one is strictly decorative.

I don't know if you know that Corypha Elata is a very large fan palm that lives like the banana, in the, after bearing fruit it dies. The nuts are like huge clusters of grapes, each about the size of a large grape. The shell is tough but easy to crack with a sharp knife. The meat of the nut is white like the coconut and is delicious. Though I guess not as delicious as the pulp of the Phoenix Dactylifera.
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S-o-o-o-r-r-y! I guess I should take a closer look. Just that in my neck of the woods, I don't see very many of them. Plus, my wife dreads the sawblade like petioles of these plants.

My closest, if not intimate, encounters with palms have only been with the following varieties: cocos nucifera, corypha elata, arenga pinnata, nypa fruticans, phoenix dactylifera, and phoenix roebelenii. The first five of which are food plants, of which in turn, 4 have uses for housing, clothing, and crafts where I come from. The last one is strictly decorative.

I don't know if you know that Corypha Elata is a very large fan palm that lives like the banana, in the, after bearing fruit it dies. The nuts are like huge clusters of grapes, each about the size of a large grape. The shell is tough but easy to crack with a sharp knife. The meat of the nut is white like the coconut and is delicious. Though I guess not as delicious as the pulp of the Phoenix Dactylifera.
I have heard of the Corypha and in my opinion, one beautiful palm. You mentioned that your wife does not like the sawlike petioles on this type of plant, well, you are in luck as the Trachycarpus do not have ANY teeth on the petioles. This is the first year mine are setting seed as I was lucky enough when I purchased them in 2005 to get a male and a female. They are wonderful palms and you really need to check into them and get a few...
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