Himalayan trip

51st state · 12-03-2007, 05:44 PM

Anyone out there crazy enough to be interested in a trip to the Himalayas?

no real fixed plans but just as a suggestion...

fly in/out of Calcutta India and head up to Sikkim,Nepal,Bhutan maybe Assam Nagaland and Aranachal Pradesh.

I have been to the western himalayas before in 2004

must be over 18, I'm in UK, but guess anyone who can get to Calcutta could go. suggested date Sept 2008 maybe?

anyone interested please PM me and we'll talk.

by the way... I am not a travel agent, or a nutter. its just an idea.

Tropicallvr · 12-17-2007, 02:28 AM

Have you gotten any takers? Sounds like a well needed plan for us northern growers. I'd reccomend a import permit before you go(for seeds and plants). Lots of film, 35mm/digital/video.
I've wanted to explored eastern India for quite a while. I hope you are able to go again, and I wouldn't doubt if you found a new species or two. These fringe plants like Musa are more undiscovered than you think.
Just right on the Mexican rivera(near Puerto Vallarta) I discovered at least one new species of bamboo, and with all those tourists just a few miles away.
I Emailed the athourity on S.american bamboos, and she couldn't figure it out, so I named it Chusquea escensi, which means climber.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...derbamboo5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...derbamboo3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...derbamboo4.jpg
HOPE THESE WORK, AND HOPE YOU GET SOME GREAT PICTURES IN THE HIMILAYAS.

dablo93 · 12-17-2007, 12:18 PM

very cool that you discovered a new plant!!

much luck there in the Himalaya if yu go

Basjoofriend · 12-18-2007, 10:25 AM

Hi,

very interesting. You should look for bananas in the coldest and highest areas, we need new banana species which are as hardy as Musa basjoo or even hardier.

This will update my German banana book in the future.

Best wishes
Joachim

51st state · 12-18-2007, 11:50 AM

thanks Joachim

hows the book coming along by the way? I have loads of seed photos I need to put up on the site. I tend to photograph all species next to a ruler so we can all identify the seeds.

I really need to get to Bhutan to see if I can find the Musa Griersonii which are there and yes I agree there will almost certainly be other new species present both there and in N E India. There are new hardy species in Yunnan and Burma, so there must be more in India & Bhutan.

frohe weihnachten und ein gutes neues jahre!!

magicgreen · 12-18-2007, 03:27 PM

I want to go. Let me see if i can work out some of the details for the trip. Gotta do some research! Magicgreen

Basjoofriend · 12-18-2007, 05:42 PM

Hi 51st state,

yesterday I'm ready with the banana book, uploaded the manuscript file and the cover file to the publish house in the internet (BoD Verlag, http://www.bod.de). And I also ordered one reference copy to check the pic quality. And my lector Chris will examine the book, then I will correct the errors in the book, and at least then I will publish my book on the book market.

Ich wünsche Dir auch ein frohes Weihnachtsfest und ein glückliches neues Jahr 2008. Happy Christmas and happy New Year 2008 to you!

Gruß
Joachim

AnnaJW · 12-19-2007, 03:46 AM

I wish I could get over my fear of flying! That woud be a truly great trip!

mskitty38583 · 12-19-2007, 08:53 AM

would love to go , but dont have the money to go. and then there is school.

51st state · 12-19-2007, 03:31 PM

A bit late to start recommending xmas presents but you could do worse that to check out...

Himalayan Journals - notes of a naturalist Vol 1 and vol 2 by J D Hooker (yes thats as in M. Hookerii) its available on amazon. ISBN-10: 8185019827
ISBN-13: 978-8185019826

failing that read it online, the descriptions of Dorjiling and Sikkim are delicious

http://www.harvestfields.ca/HerbBooks/01/001/00.htm

MediaHound · 12-19-2007, 04:11 PM

Congrats on your discovery Tropicallvr!

This trip sounds fun! We once thought about a Bananas.org trip to Hawaii to search for wild bananas.

magicgreen · 12-19-2007, 05:14 PM

Jarred, that sounds like another great adventure! Have you all given that any more consideration?

MediaHound · 12-20-2007, 11:54 AM

We had a member in Hawaii that was going to help out with it but he has not been online in a bit.
He's out in the jungle probably tracking down the 30 or so kinds of Hawaiian bananas thats still left to rediscover from his checklist of 80 or so.

Tropicallvr · 12-26-2007, 05:44 PM

Found this article about Musa wild and cultivated in India at various elevations. Would be good to find the author.
ftp://ftp.fao.org/docrep/fao/009/a0327e/a0327e01.pdf
This page also mentions(at the bottom)- a few edible bananas that aren't very available unless in India, and should be cold hardy.
http://www.rhs.org.uk/Learning/publi...02/bananas.asp

51st state · 12-26-2007, 09:08 PM

Hi Tropical, thanks for that.

I'll add it to my file.

I'm not compktely convinced by the accoracy of the RHS article (though it is very good) and sums up the Banana plant market in the UK... Musa Malbhog, Dhussray and Hahare are all new to me. has anyone come accross these? or have any info on them?

Also the article states that Musella Lasiocarpa is now beinmg classified as Musa Lasiocarpa, is this corect?

the plant finder is brilliant. Why cant we have a world Plantfinder? it would make life so much easier...

tony palmer · 12-27-2007, 02:59 AM

Hi Kev,
have you thought about Myanmar you would find hardy types of Bananas Aroids gingers and palms in northern Burma, it borders Yunnan Tibet and India, plant collectors are reluctant to go there, because most of it is inaccessible by road and the old trading roots are often blocked by land slips, its the largest sub-tropical forest in the world were many of the plants i have mentioned grow at altitude and are not named yet.

Tropicallvr · 12-27-2007, 11:09 AM

How dangerous is it there on the Burma border? I saw an awesome show about farmers from the Burma border with Thailand that still practiced acient martial arts, because of the long tradition of Burmese aggression. Trebrown is selling a few seeds from that area, maybe he'd let you hook up with his wholesalers?

51st state · 12-27-2007, 11:57 AM

Yes, I mean c'mon. ..I dont mind going well off the beaten track but Burma is risky the tribal areas of India will be unruly enough. but I agree, it is tempting.

microfarmer · 12-30-2007, 10:46 PM

You just gotta post a photo journal on this site so we who can not come get a peek...

klemmthamm · 12-30-2007, 11:46 PM

If only I had some extra time and money

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51st state many 'naners, little time 51st state's Photo Gallery Location: salisbury, UK Find me on the map! Zone: 8b ish Name: Kev Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 465 BananaBucks : 272,120 Feedback: 3 / 100% Said "Thanks" 202 Times Was Thanked 258 Times in 126 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: Himalayan trip Hi Tropical, thanks for that. I'll add it to my file. I'm not compktely convinced by the accoracy of the RHS article (though it is very good) and sums up the Banana plant market in the UK... Musa Malbhog, Dhussray and Hahare are all new to me. has anyone come accross these? or have any info on them? Also the article states that Musella Lasiocarpa is now beinmg classified as Musa Lasiocarpa, is this corect? the plant finder is brilliant. Why cant we have a world Plantfinder? it would make life so much easier... __________________ a>

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