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Old 11-17-2009, 02:46 AM   #101 (permalink)
 
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I'll admit it, I want more CO2 to warm things up so I've got my smudge pot burning tonight to help protect my bunch hanging on my mystery banana plant (aka busy bee banana in 2008 photos). We had frost this morning and I sprayed everything down at 6:30am with water but it was already down to 41F by 9:30pm tonight so I moved stuff around outside for a bit.
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How does water spraying work? It doesn't hurt the plant?
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No, water helps warm up the surface of the plant immediately in the case of a light frost. Frosts of longer duration can be somewhat mitigated by continually apply water even if the water freezes as the water gives off heat as it freezes. In addition, much of the damage caused by mild frosts is due to dehydration.

Circulating air fans an also help, all of these are commonly used in various farm settings.
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When we went to Freeport, bahama a few years ago, we decided on a whim to go to church that Sunday even though we didn't have really appropriate church clothes. We usually go around here and it just didn't feel right. So we got out the phone book and found one and went there. When we got inside, everyone there was dressed up like Easter Sunday at our church, hats, suits, gloves, nice dresses, etc. Here we were in our jeans and t shirts! But anyway, they were really nice, announced us as visitors from the US-- and even made us go first through the cookie/coffee line after the service in the reception hall. (They do that every week, have church, then have a social hour in the reception hall).
They told us that it had snowed down there four or five years ago, just enough to whiten the ground, but not enough to accumulate. Several of the people there said they had taken pictures of it and had them at home. Then the minister insisted on driving us back to our hotel to save us cab fare. People are good everywhere aren't they? And weather is weird...
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Our average first frost is early December, so we haven't even been close to frost yet. My pecan tree is still solid green and peppers are still producing.

We do get cold from time to time, but we can have highs in the 70s any day during winter. Actually, that is one of our problems, it can be 70 one day and then we can have highs in the 40s or 50 the next.
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:05 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Like Sbl said its not like you can keep your stuff dormant if its 70F or better several days a week in the winter. I'm not so fortunate.. maybe a couple..lol I'm about to get my pups out before the weather gets them since its not frezing here for the whole next week (and hopefully then some). I really need them out of the way for what I'm doing maintain what I have in the yard minus 3 & pups. I am trying something different to maintain what I have in the ground. Well I'm pulling 3 out the ground to pot like the pups in my artificial sun room (another test).
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Old 11-18-2009, 04:19 AM   #107 (permalink)
 
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Like Sbl said its not like you can keep your stuff dormant if its 70F or better several days a week in the winter. I'm not so fortunate.. maybe a couple..lol I'm about to get my pups out before the weather gets them since its not frezing here for the whole next week (and hopefully then some). I really need them out of the way for what I'm doing maintain what I have in the yard minus 3 & pups. I am trying something different to maintain what I have in the ground. Well I'm pulling 3 out the ground to pot like the pups in my artificial sun room (another test).
Why would you want to keep them dormant anyway? We hit 80 degrees on January 12th this year and lots of 70s throughout. Yes they woke up but even when we had a cold day of 29 degrees late that month there was a little damage but nothing major. If the pups pop out, just protect them
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I have several potted banana trees in my backyard. I want to know if anyone can tell me how to prepare them for winter. I live in Oklahoma City. We had temperatures that reached freezing last night and my poor banana trees look awful. Is it to late to save them. I have read that I need to cut back the leaves and remove the soil from the roots. I just don't know what to do next. I have a garage or an attic that I can place them in. I just want to know if I need to put them in a container or wrap them in plastic. Also, do they need sunlight or water while they are dormant?

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Old 11-18-2009, 01:45 PM   #109 (permalink)
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If you are going to store them bare root at temps below 60, you can just remove the leaves (you can leave 1) and lay them in a cool dark place (garage, basement, crawl space is best). Keep them dry.

If you are like us and may have mid 20s or even upper teens for lows between warm spells of 70 to 80, a container works well so that you can move them inside for the cold spells, but still keep the water level low.

Depending on the variety, you can protect them inground to get the pseudostem to survive temps in the mid 20s.
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Sbl has some good info, there. Also, I left a post in your other thread with info on how I've been doing it for the past 3 years here.
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Like Sbl said its not like you can keep your stuff dormant if its 70F or better several days a week in the winter. I'm not so fortunate.. maybe a couple..lol I'm about to get my pups out before the weather gets them since its not frezing here for the whole next week (and hopefully then some). I really need them out of the way for what I'm doing maintain what I have in the yard minus 3 & pups. I am trying something different to maintain what I have in the ground. Well I'm pulling 3 out the ground to pot like the pups in my artificial sun room (another test).
Please keep us posted . Would Luv to know how your tests come out.
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You guys who have it all warm don't like snow?! It's not that bad! It reflects heat so it feels warmer if its 20F with snow than 20F without snow. With snow you get to snowboard!!! But don't get me wrong, after New Years day, I'm sick of it!!
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You guys who have it all warm don't like snow?! It's not that bad! It reflects heat so it feels warmer if its 20F with snow than 20F without snow. With snow you get to snowboard!!! But don't get me wrong, after New Years day, I'm sick of it!!
Would totally Luv snow & snowboards !! But all we ever get is ice. Didn't even get enough snow, last winter, to make a very big snowball . Hope we get snow this year cause I wanna build a snowman and a snow igloo!!
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I grew up near Green Bay Wisconsin and had snow on the ground for 4 months of the year. Now I live in St Louis MO and it only snows a couple times each winter. It seems like we get ice and sleet more often which is worse than snow. I have lost trees because of ice before, it sucks. So I could live without the snow and ice myself. But the kids do like to go sleding when we do get snow. - Jeremy
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I grew up near Green Bay Wisconsin and had snow on the ground for 4 months of the year. Now I live in St Louis MO and it only snows a couple times each winter. It seems like we get ice and sleet more often which is worse than snow. I have lost trees because of ice before, it sucks. So I could live without the snow and ice myself. But the kids do like to go sleding when we do get snow. - Jeremy
Yeah, snow's a blast, ice sucks! St louis? Were you there when the 2007 ice-storm disaster hit? Had Lots of split & broken up trees then, still do. The trees all over town still look like something out of a Halloween movie.
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That reminds me of a story my dad told me. In Spain it was -4F (-20C) and in only two minuets in went up to 40F (5C)!!!! Since the temp went that high in such a short amount of time, the trees and the sidewalks split in two!! I don't know when this happened though but it's pretty interesting!
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That reminds me of a story my dad told me. In Spain it was -4F (-20C) and in only two minuets in went up to 40F (5C)!!!! Since the temp went that high in such a short amount of time, the trees and the sidewalks split in two!! I don't know when this happened though but it's pretty interesting!
That's also common in the deserts, here. The temp falls so fast at night that rocks explode! Very eerie! Of course, in the deserts there's little danger of many trees splitting since there aren't many trees! LOL! Canada has it's own problems, too. The temp extremes make it impossible to build bridges over large lakes. Truckers have to drive slowly over the ice.
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In the Upper Peninsula in the winter in Keweenaw, near Lake Superior, there's ice volcanoes! They can reach 20ft-30ft high and explode ice! http://www.geo.mtu.edu/volcanoes/ice...s/long-arc.jpg http://www.geo.mtu.edu/volcanoes/ice/images/arc2.jpg MTU Volcanoes Page - Ice Volcanoes
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Thanks for the links, Bananalee! I knew the waves could crack the ice beneath trucks but I never dreamed it could make eruptions. That's just awesome!
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Thanks! I want to see one soooo bad that would be great!!!!!
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