djmb74

ya except that chart is over 20 years old... gives you a good idea though.

You can go here and get recent data..

NCDC: U.S. Climate Normals -

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sbl

Thanks--fits pretty good with what I remembered--if you use 50% and 32 degrees, our first freeze is Dec 10 and last is Feb 22. My memory was Dec 8 to Feb 15.

JuniPerez

Hi Steve. I'm up in Rochester and we had lows of about 29°F a few nights this months, and many low 30's. Mine haven't suffered burns at all (if they have, it must be very minimal because I can't see it). I sprayed them with FeezePruf at the beginning of October, just to see how well it works.

We should be closing off the week with temps in the 60's, so after this I'll chop them down.

enigma99a

Last night was 36.9!!! That's either a record or close to it. Is this January or what? ... This winter is going to be brutal. Arctic is COLD this year

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sbl

Low of 74 here tonight.

stevelau1911

Wow I never knew someone else in Rochester grew bananas, thats awsome. Do you have any pups you are willing to spare? I'm interested in getting more bananas, but I don't know what types will survive up here. If you are interested I could trade you some of my temperate bamboos for some banana pups.

Also about the freeze-pruf, does it actually work? I have a solar greenhouse that can raise the temperature by more than 10F on cold nights so if it really works well, I might get it and keep my bananas in the greenhouse over winter.

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BananaLee

Today's good. It was 70F just now at 5:30pm.

BananaLee

In zone 10 California!? Wow...better protect some plants. I feel sorry for you.

ewitte

Pretty chilly upper 40's most of the night. Its 51 right now. The pineapple is now in for the winter. Not worried about insulating the bananas yet.

enigma99a

Well... borderline in my microclimate. Yes that was BAD but, it has since moderated and 80 degrees for the next 5 days!

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51st state

It's supposed to be an El Ninho year, what's the effect of that across the US?
In theory the net tells me in the UK we should have a mild winter. Which after last years severe one would be nice

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sbl

That depends on the area. The Southeast is usually colder and wetter in El Nino yrs. Some other areas are warmer, some drier.

BananaLee

A day or two ago we had a extreme low of 23F!!!!!! But it really warmed up, right now, it's 64F with a nice warm southern breeze. For the next two days we'll have the same nice weather with a low of 47F. Not bad!!!

Eric

Thanx for using "usually". Dunno, maybe Oklahoma's just a weird location But El Nino effects seem to be real unpredictable here. Some summers it's just the opposite of what's predicted to happen.
Been nice though! Been having record rains & Oklahoma's usually pretty dry. Great weather here, right now. 70's (F) highs, 50's (F) lows But by Tuesday, will be getting about 10 days of 60's (F) highs, 40's (F) lows. Just hope we get 70's, this year, for Christmas. But after hearing about all the unusually cold weather up north, I have a feeling we wont.
Btw, Thanx for all the great info & pics! Luv those mountain scenes, Ante!
Also, I think global worming is over-rated. Think it's a great idea to try and stop wrecking the planet But a lot of scientists believe it's nothing we can control. They believe it's caused by lots of things - even things we dont understand yet.

51st state

[quote=Eric;107563Also, I think global worming is over-rated. Think it's a great idea to try and stop wrecking the planet But a lot of scientists believe it's nothing we can control. They believe it's caused by lots of things - even things we dont understand yet.[/QUOTE]

WHAT...When will America wake up?? we can see all it, try googleing world CO2 emission figures and look at the change in the last 10 years alone! This is not some theory, this is Fact. This is something we can try and do something about. Sad the 'fox news generation' are so blind

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BananaLee

In my opinion the increasing and decreasing of weather is all natural. The planet warming up has to do with the ozone layer. If global warming was real, we wouldn't of had the coldest winter in 30 years. While we're not awake yet, were awakening.

enigma99a

Yes, it is a FACT and proven that CO2 only warms the earth about 1/6th as originally thought. It takes one trillion tons of CO2 to warm the earth one degree. So the most the earth can warm by the end of 2010 is one Fahrenheit degree. The sun on the other hand, can either cool or warm the earth far greater than a single degree. So man made global warming is a hoax.

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jeffreyp

I look at global warming as a religion, a cause that some people take great offense if you speak an opinion contrary to it. I like to take a positive approach, increased co2 (at substantially greater levels) used in greenhouses increases plant growth and yields. Warmer temperatures could also mean longer growing seasons and greater range for growing crops. Plants can also utilize the extra co2 and sequester it.

JuniPerez

I for one believe that it's completely selfish of the tropics to hog up all the cool palms, bananas, citrus, and great weather. While I don't believe mankind is causing all this global warming, I do believe we are experiencing some kind of a climate shift and that it would come regardless of our presence here, just as it has over the past millions of years. I just don't believe it's going to be that BIG of an impact and that most of that will be noticeable in the polar areas... here in NY we've had a cooler than normal summer actually. I look forward to a mild winter.

sbl

A warm spell, a warm summer, a warm or cold winter is not climate--that is weather.

As a scientist, I happen to think the evidence is pretty solid that increasing CO2 is responsible for the warming we have seen in the past several decades.
And the warming over the past several decades is pretty undeniable.

However, It really shouldn't matter if we believe in global climate change or not as far as trying to conserve energy and find and develop alternate energy sources--to do otherwise is to provide our enemies with the money and means to destroy us.

Unfortunately, I think we are screwed--I think it is too late to stop the climate change and there are too many selfish people out there who would rather stick their head in the sand than give up any convenience. And others that are so interested in making a buck that they would sell our enemies the bomb to blow us up.