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Old 10-15-2009, 07:40 PM   #21 (permalink)
 
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We might have a little snow tomorrow morning!!!! That must be a record!! I protected my basjoo and my palms and we'll see how things go from there!
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:51 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Actually no sun spot activity means the earth is going through a cooling off period.
I recently saw some data that seemed to indicate that the El Nino southern Oscillation and the Atlantic Oscillation are much better correlated with warming and cooling than carbon dioxide. And apparently there are some multidecadal cycles that correlate very well with global warming and cooling. I had to take some climatology and meteorology classes for my agronomy degree and my professors who were all full tenured professors didn't buy into the man made global warming stuff.
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Yes global warming... It's a big hoax and I'm glad people are starting to realize it.

Al Gore said, "But it is the awareness itself that will drive the change and one of the ways it will drive the change is through global governance…" (and global taxes)

So the truth is, there is no global warming but it's just a giant push toward globalism.


On the frost: Let's see some pictures! I'm stuck in 70s and 80s LOL.
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Yah money is a pretty good motivator to coin a term and promote an agenda. Yes we do need to do more to help the environment but I think some greedy people did a really good job at swaying the public some politicians so as to market global warming in such a huge way to line their pockets.

I remember how so many people jumped on the Y2K bandwagon, man that made a lot of people some money up until Jan 01. hahaha

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Global warming is totally a fake. I don't know why they say there's global warming when we just had the coldest winter and coldest summer in 30+ years! Lol!
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Howdy y'all! A frost hit my musa basjoo last night! It's crazy! It's 20F colder then it's supposed to be!! I hope we don't get another zone 5 winter again!!! AHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
At my location, we have Frost 24 hours a day every day of the year: The Frost Family !

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Global warming is totally a fake. I don't know why they say there's global warming when we just had the coldest winter and coldest summer in 30+ years! Lol!
If you talk with a global warming researcher at say, Scripps Research Center they will tell you that Global Warming is defined as a 1-degree increase in the average temperature of the earth in 100-year intervals. Whatever happened in your region over the last 30 years is insignificant by comparison.
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I guess it depends where you are. But in Houston, no one who has lived through the past 30 years here would argue against an obvious warming trend. If not 'global' warming, definitely 'Houston warming'. When I arrived here, temperatures to 19 degrees were common, people didn't wash their cars in winter - just too much slush on the road; we could actually grow peaches and pears. Today, it never gets below 28 degrees, several winters never see a freeze, all cars are spotless and shiny throughout winter; we almost can't grow peaches, but we sure as hell can grow bananas - which was out of the question 30 years ago.

So this year will be the test - a really cold one by all accounts. Half my plants froze to the ground last winter, with its 8 light freeze nights, and hence did not bear fruit. But lots of others did. This winter, hopefully not before December, I'm going to spread some plastic across lots of plants cut to 5 feet and put a heater under it on the dangerously cold nights. There's a way to beat this - it just has to be developed - until it gets really warm around here.
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... we could actually grow peaches and pears. Today, it never gets below 28 degrees, several winters never see a freeze, all cars are spotless and shiny throughout winter; we almost can't grow peaches, but we sure as hell can grow bananas - which was out of the question 30 years ago. ...
You can grow the ultra-low chill peaches, apples, cherries like we do in San Diego! See these listings for "European" Fruits & Nuts.
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My weatherman just said on 10 O'clock news that most ppl think because we are having Nov weather now, that it will be a cold winter. NOT TRUE; because of El Nino, we will have a warmer winter. YEAY!!!!!
I guess this also means we will have more snow! YUK
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:25 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Europe reports the coldest october weather in 50 years, due to a super cold front from Arctic that came practically 12 hours after having a 30C (86F) the day before. Many people still trapped in mountain explorations are reported missing, several of them were trapped by 5 foots of snow in the mountains and so far we have 4 dead, all of them tourists, all of them from Austria.
Germany and Austria are no better. Alp regions and areas are under heavy snow cover and will probably recover in March at best. And so is a good part of Europe as well.

95% of natural vegetation has green leaves (as it should be at this time of the year) and are undergoing unbelievable amount of strees...

Great news for 1st year banana hardiness experiments, ay? Grand Nain has survived its first real snow today (and so has Pahari Kela, after what I recovered it inside!!! - safety measures), no damage, minimal temps around 34F and no damage to leaves (I should also mention that these temperatures are constant, so it's just 34 to 40F all day and night-long), P-stem or what-so-ever - no damage or signs of anything bad....

I should also mention that it hasn't seen the sun for like 5 days. Rain/rain-snow all the time, day and night.

Even though I think we are lucky. If this came in January, we would probably survive (zone - 1.5) winters that come once in 50 or so years.

Cheers from waterland! Btw. the snow didn't have a chance. It practically melted down as soon as it touched the ground. But other regions weren't so lucky. 4+ foot.
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95% of natural vegetation has green leaves (as it should be at this time of the year) and are undergoing unbelievable amount of strees...

Great news for 1st year banana hardiness experiments, ay? Grand Nain has survived its first real snow today (and so has Pahari Kela, after what I recovered it inside!!! - safety measures), no damage, minimal temps around 34F and no damage to leaves (I should also mention that these temperatures are constant, so it's just 34 to 40F all day and night-long), P-stem or what-so-ever - no damage or signs of anything bad....
I haven't had a chance at looking at what damage the latest frosts have done but I guess now I'll have to feel "lucky" about having cold crap weather for a couple of weeks as I even did some mulching a few weeks back. All my exotics are having their first winter out and at least they had some time to adjust now.
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Old 10-16-2009, 05:03 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I haven't had a chance at looking at what damage the latest frosts have done but I guess now I'll have to feel "lucky" about having cold crap weather for a couple of weeks as I even did some mulching a few weeks back. All my exotics are having their first winter out and at least they had some time to adjust now.
I didn't even had time to make autumn preparations, my tomatoes were still green, when it snowed for a few minutes. Lovely sight. Unfortunatelly I didn't have my camera with me.
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Hey Jack,
just imagine that we had snow on Biokovo mountain Mon-Thue. It is wierd .
Today max. 17C.

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Fortunately we have only a lot of snow and no frost here - the temperature in nights oscillate about O C. I haven't wraped my banan jet becouse it is very wet and I afraid of roting under cover.
In case of frost i made a temporary vlies tent and puted 2 or 3 long lighting candles inside - this is very easy and cheap protection agains freeze (of course against brief and low frost)
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just imagine that we had snow on Biokovo mountain Mon-Thue. It is wierd .
Today max. 17C.
Wow, Ante, 17C, did you have to wear gloves? No really, I went to school just in a T-short without any additional clothing. I thought that it was just a silly chilly morning. Surprisingly I was the only one not to catch the cold that day.
Grand Nains are still fighting outside and not the cold, but water seems to be problem for them in almost frosty days... Curious.
Biokovo rulez. It snows there, your seaside will vaporize the water which will then eventually come as a rain and wind from the temperature differential. Interesting.


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Fortunately we have only a lot of snow and no frost here - the temperature in nights oscillate about O C. I haven't wraped my banan jet becouse it is very wet and I afraid of roting under cover.
In case of frost i made a temporary vlies tent and puted 2 or 3 long lighting candles inside - this is very easy and cheap protection agains freeze (of course against brief and low frost)
Good thinking Seweryn, it's raining here terribly too and that could indeed lead to a deadly rot. Best of luck with your naner!
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Send some of that cool weather my way... It's 87F in my room this evening and I'm trying to not turn on the A/C. Still hot outside so the windows being open isn't helping much...
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It was great here friday.. sunny not so hot I sweat inplace(normal). I don't think I wiped my forehead all day infact. I don't know about a low of 45 tonight...
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I wouldn't go buy OJ on a prediction.. but if Florida Freezes.. I should be building snowmen again like 8 yrs ago.. lol Well it all melted the next day.... Ok I don't have an 8 year itch, and I'm not going to Wisconsin much less Arkansas to enjoy the cold.. Its surely time to make some rumbletusks(like a spoetzl) for chili...
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