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Old 01-03-2010, 09:10 AM   #241 (permalink)
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It was 28 this morning--they are predicting lows in the 20s for most of the week and low 20s by the weekend. I hope my protection works.
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Old 01-03-2010, 09:53 AM   #242 (permalink)
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The image below is of a weather station that is very close to me. I did the screen shot about 45 minutes after I woke up this morning. When I woke, it was 15.5F. This station is almost exactly the same as my outdoor temp sensor, which is behind my place on the north side, 6 feet off the ground, in shade, in a cedar tree, about 15 feet away from the building.

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Can you explain how well these work? Winter appears to be over for the year but, I might want to try some of these for next Winter. (if they work well that is)

I would like to contrast and compare these with frost blankets. This might be the way to go. Although the tallest one I could find is 49" tall, so it is better suited for small stuff I guess. It sure would have kept my 3 year old hibiscus alive when we froze last month...
I have two 49" tall umbrella greenhouses. I have pipe heating cables wraped around the truck of the palms and around the truck on the ground covered with an inch of mulch. Make sure the temp sensor is outside the umbrella so its exposed to the cold. Also make sure the cable doesnt wrap on top of its self or it could melt. The cables will turn on when the outside temp drops below about 40F. I also have 45 watt hallogen lights inside both umbrellas (that are on a timer so they turn on only at night, I used light fixtures that stick into the ground. Then I covered both with quilt batting (the synthtiec kind) and put a green frost blanket over the quilt batting. I used bricks to wait down the blanket so it wont blow off.

I have a wireless weather sensor inside one umbrella that is attached to a bamboo pole about a foot off the ground. I have the weather station in my kitchen so I can track the temp, it also tracks the min and max temp. My expereince is that it will stay about 20 degrees warmer than outside depending on the outside temp. If its above 40 out then it will normally stay about 5 degrees warmer. If its a sunny day it will warm up 20 to 30 degrees warmer than outside just by the heat of the sun.

On days that are above 40 I will fold back the blankets and open the vents to let the outside air in. Its been about 2 or 3 weeks since I have done that. the umbrellas look pretty cool at night when they are lit up. My wife calls them igloos.
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I can't believe it! It went down to 4F or 5F last night!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So much for my hypothesis of a zone 7b winter. Usually a record breaker is followed by a very mild one.
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[quote=BananaLee;116491]I can't believe it! It went down to 4F or 5F last night!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So much for my hypothesis of a zone 7b winter.QUOTE]

So much for that global warming theory...lmao It was 48F this afternoon Sunny and very nippy... & that's with me wearing a coat and a madd bomber..
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I have two 49" tall umbrella greenhouses. I have pipe heating cables wraped around the truck of the palms and around the truck on the ground covered with an inch of mulch. Make sure the temp sensor is outside the umbrella so its exposed to the cold. Also make sure the cable doesnt wrap on top of its self or it could melt. The cables will turn on when the outside temp drops below about 40F. I also have 45 watt hallogen lights inside both umbrellas (that are on a timer so they turn on only at night, I used light fixtures that stick into the ground. Then I covered both with quilt batting (the synthtiec kind) and put a green frost blanket over the quilt batting. I used bricks to wait down the blanket so it wont blow off.

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On days that are above 40 I will fold back the blankets and open the vents to let the outside air in. Its been about 2 or 3 weeks since I have done that. the umbrellas look pretty cool at night when they are lit up. My wife calls them igloos.
sounds like a great setup, got any pics of them in action?
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Well it's 50F and gorgeous to bad I get to coop my nanner's back up. I'm thinkin' 17F if it occurs friday is going to be a true test for some of my stuff? :^)
Well my new forecast is for 15-16F Friday & sat.. I'm thinkin' we're finally getting out zones temps.. man alive that's messed up
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28 again last night, but predictions for tonight have suddenly dropped to 20--they were 26 yesterday. They are also predicting 20 for Friday night.
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A town in NW Wisc had a minus 47 * temp yesterday --& that's actual temp, no windchill!
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thats crazy. Its been in the low single digets in st louis that last couple nights and thats cold enough for me.
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I woke up a half-hour ago its 32F and sleeting. now it's 28F. I thought I lived in the South? lol
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High on Friday now 33! Never trust weather unless there is an hour by hour though. It says 49/34 for today yet its 28 right now and isn't predicted to pass the "low" on the hour-by-hour until 9am. Never understand why a day is not a day in weather. If they have 28 on the hour-by hour it should be the low for the day. Its not like its unsuspected.
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It was 23 when I woke up this morning, now they are predicting 19 for tonight! They have been predicting a warmer day for the next day for the last 3 days--then the next day comes and they change it to even colder.

TV weather man is predicting 15 for the weekend!
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Yah its gonna get cold tonight. I ran out of sheets for my plants that were in the ground, 2 dwarf cavs an ice cream and an apple banana plant now have freeze burned leaves. Got a lot of mulch around the base so I suppose they will recover when things warm up....
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More snow is on the way! We got about 3 or 3 1/2 in. of snow last night and there's a lot more falling. It looks very pretty outside. Time for winter sports!! I wanna snowboard! It might get down to 9F tonight and 5F tomorrow! Another weather source says lows of 11F which sounds more reasonable. I hope it's true!
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Weird, but yesterday I was thinking when it was in the upper 40s with fog or overcast (haven't seen the sun in 3 days) that it felt colder than some of the times I've been in weather in the teens or 20s. I think the high humidity takes more heat from my body than dry air.
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Old 01-08-2010, 02:17 PM   #257 (permalink)
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I no longer have frost... I'm part of the frozen-chosen 23F & windchill of 13F
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Weird, but yesterday I was thinking when it was in the upper 40s with fog or overcast (haven't seen the sun in 3 days) that it felt colder than some of the times I've been in weather in the teens or 20s. I think the high humidity takes more heat from my body than dry air.
Has it only been 3 days? it seems much longer and I'm going insane. FEELS SOOO COLD too. You are right. Although it is 48, it feels like 28..... Clouds are never going away

Good thing is it never gets below 43 anymore at night. I don't know what is better for the bananas. Constant temps in the 40s or days in 50s, nights in 30s

Now it is raining pretty good.. I thought it wasn't supposed to rain
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My ground actually got soft a "lil" bit (thanks to the sun not the Temp) before refreezing...
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