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tai haku 07-25-2021 09:26 AM

Dwarf orinocco flowering in Britain
 
So at the end of last year I was really hoping to get a flower this year on either my dwarf orinocco or dwarf namwah. I grow in an old commercial tomato greenhouse on Guernsey in the British Channel. Anyway we got served notice by the people we were renting from at the end of the year and had to move these in March. It really knocked them back and I gave up on fruit for the year and just took solace in getting them through winter well and keeping all my varieties through the move. Checked in for the first time in a week today and noticed something I’d missed!!! Any tips on getting the best fruit from here gratefully received!







luisport 07-25-2021 10:52 AM

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That's really great! Congratulations!

barrie 07-28-2021 10:20 AM

Re: Dwarf orinocco flowering in Britain
 
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cincinnana 08-05-2021 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tai haku (Post 343466)
So at the end of last year I was really hoping to get a flower this year on either my dwarf orinocco or dwarf namwah. I grow in an old commercial tomato greenhouse on Guernsey in the British Channel. Anyway we got served notice by the people we were renting from at the end of the year and had to move these in March. It really knocked them back and I gave up on fruit for the year and just took solace in getting them through winter well and keeping all my varieties through the move. Checked in for the first time in a week today and noticed something I’d missed!!! Any tips on getting the best fruit from here gratefully received!







I hope they finish.....for you....!!

mushtaq86 08-08-2021 01:26 PM

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Congratulations, unless you can provide heat those Orinoco fruit will not ripen after September.

tai haku 08-11-2021 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mushtaq86 (Post 343787)
Congratulations, unless you can provide heat those Orinoco fruit will not ripen after September.

Thanks Mushtaq; I remember you from threads on Hardy Tropicals many moons ago. Do you still have your huge collection?

I’m hoping I might get slightly longer than September - the sun does so well for us down here and these vineries really hold the heat, someone managed to keep cavendish pushing leaves all winter on an allotment near mine last year! Time will tell if it’s enough (particularly given this stem isn’t particularly strong post move)

mushtaq86 08-11-2021 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by tai haku (Post 343868)
Thanks Mushtaq; I remember you from threads on Hardy Tropicals many moons ago. Do you still have your huge collection?

I’m hoping I might get slightly longer than September - the sun does so well for us down here and these vineries really hold the heat, someone managed to keep cavendish pushing leaves all winter on an allotment near mine last year! Time will tell if it’s enough (particularly given this stem isn’t particularly strong post move)

Hi tai haku

Unfortunately those days of growing huge collections are long gone. I only grow what i can manage now.

If someone managed to keep a AAA genome Cavendish growing, which requires day temperatures of 25c to do well and minimum 14c over winter months, then a ABB Orinoco shouldn't have any problems.

If the p-stem is not strong enough, you most likely will have to support it.

tai haku 08-11-2021 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mushtaq86 (Post 343870)
Hi tai haku

Unfortunately those days of growing huge collections are long gone. I only grow what i can manage now.

If someone managed to keep a AAA genome Cavendish growing, which requires day temperatures of 25c to do well and minimum 14c over winter months, then a ABB Orinoco shouldn't have any problems.

If the p-stem is not strong enough, you most likely will have to support it.

The Orinoco and namwah flew through last winter. In a different greenhouse this year though so will be interesting (concerning) to see how we go.
In terms of strength I’m most worried about it having the strength to fill out fruit. I was very confident they were fruiting size but having moved them I’m pretty sure I weakened the pstem a lot by removing green leaves etc for the move

mushtaq86 08-11-2021 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tai haku (Post 343875)
The Orinoco and namwah flew through last winter. In a different greenhouse this year though so will be interesting (concerning) to see how we go.
In terms of strength I’m most worried about it having the strength to fill out fruit. I was very confident they were fruiting size but having moved them I’m pretty sure I weakened the pstem a lot by removing green leaves etc for the move


Cut the flower bell after the female flowers, so all strength goes into the fruit, also keep adding potash.

tai haku 01-05-2022 08:24 AM

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An update on these as at a couple of days ago



Dalmatiansoap 01-05-2022 11:20 AM

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Nice job done!
:woohoonaner:

mushtaq86 01-05-2022 11:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tai haku (Post 346622)
An update on these as at a couple of days ago



Hi tai haku

Congratulations on getting those Orinoco fruit to fill out. I was very doubtful the fruit would survive, what min/max temperatures have you been getting in the greenhouse. Did you add additional heating.

tai haku 01-05-2022 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mushtaq86 (Post 346624)
Hi tai haku

Congratulations on getting those Orinoco fruit to fill out. I was very doubtful the fruit would survive, what min/max temperatures have you been getting in the greenhouse. Did you add additional heating.

Thank you! I can’t hear it - and I haven’t monitored max - min temps (as much out of fear of what I might see as anything) but we’ve only had one frost so far this year outside so still very mild and I would guess not much below 9deg on the greenhouse. My passiflora cincinnata is looking rather sorry for itself to the extent that is why kind of guide. Dwarf Brazilian is absolutely flying growth wise at the moment.

cincinnana 01-06-2022 06:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tai haku (Post 346622)
An update on these as at a couple of days ago



Those are looking good.
It looks like the plant has some new leaves to pull it through till spring.

peterentwistle 01-08-2022 06:43 AM

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Wow they are looking great! Congrats! Keep us posted on the progress. How’s your Namwah doing?

tai haku 01-13-2022 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by peterentwistle (Post 346639)
Wow they are looking great! Congrats! Keep us posted on the progress. How’s your Namwah doing?

Taking this as an opportunity to update on the full collection:
The flower won’t progress (it’s literally flowering 6 inches up from a cut stem) with no leaves) but the bigger stems are looking good but not growing as fast as they were in the old greenhouse. Their pups are doing very well though. The smaller pups I transplanted separately have not gone so well which I think bizarrely is due to ant nests in the roots. The pups on the flowering plant (which is on a big pot) are in my other greenhouse and look great.

Dwarf Brazilian is really enjoying itself growing well, good spacing between leaves and one sword sucker.

Rajapuri is not doing a lot but I think has finally got its roots settled in the greenhouse and ia ready to go.

At home and not yet transplanted:
Red Dacca (suspected) is sulking a little bit but pushing suckers
Dwarf Cavendish is doing ok
Superdwarf cav is a bit pointless; and
Grand Nain is flying in its pot


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