Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian

Tropicallvr · 05-14-2007, 06:25 PM

I just got a nice Tall brazilian from going bananas, and now I'm thinking I should at least get a dwarf to do a proper cold hardy test

with both.
Has anybody noticed a difference between the two in terms of hardiness?
Or for that matter a difference in hardiness between the dwarf and tall orinoco's? My tall orinoco did really well on the warmer coast, but I gave my dwarf to someone with a greenhouse, so not much to compare.

Simply Bananas · 08-25-2008, 07:30 PM

How did the comparison work out?

Tropicallvr · 08-25-2008, 07:55 PM

Never had a chance to test them out.
Someone(Joe Real maybe?) thought the tall version was more cold hardy, but probably tougher to get to fruit than the short one.

Simply Bananas · 08-25-2008, 08:34 PM

I have a tall one now doing well. Its in its 4th month from a TC. May get dwarfs/dwarves next year if I am lucky.

endeitz · 08-25-2008, 11:12 PM

I bought both dwarf and tall types from online sources last winter (at least I hope they are the right thing, they are definitely Braz. since the leaves have the right streaking), overwintered them in pots in an attached garage next to a sunny window, and planted them in the ground in late March.

The dwarf grew very well by my gardening standards and is now about 8' tall. The tall brazilian did not fare as well, and is only about 6' tall. No, I didn't get them switched at birth (of course one was from Ebay. . .). They both seem to suffer in the Texas sun/heat. It has been absolutely brutal here this summer, with constant >100F high temps.

I will be attempting to protect the stems of both this winter (I am 8a, we get down to 15F-ish) with bubble wrap or something similar, and a foot of mulch on the ground. I have pups from the dwarf to put in the garage again, and am hoping the tall one will pup in time that I can save one of those as well. Regardless, I am confident that the mothers will at least come back from the ground, even if the stems don't survive.

I think we will all know more in the spring, and can compare notes then!

Cheers,

Ed.

Chironex · 08-26-2008, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by endeitz

I bought both dwarf and tall types from online sources last winter (at least I hope they are the right thing, they are definitely Braz. since the leaves have the right streaking), overwintered them in pots in an attached garage next to a sunny window, and planted them in the ground in late March.

The dwarf grew very well by my gardening standards and is now about 8' tall. The tall brazilian did not fare as well, and is only about 6' tall. No, I didn't get them switched at birth (of course one was from Ebay. . .). They both seem to suffer in the Texas sun/heat. It has been absolutely brutal here this summer, with constant >100F high temps.

I will be attempting to protect the stems of both this winter (I am 8a, we get down to 15F-ish) with bubble wrap or something similar, and a foot of mulch on the ground. I have pups from the dwarf to put in the garage again, and am hoping the tall one will pup in time that I can save one of those as well. Regardless, I am confident that the mothers will at least come back from the ground, even if the stems don't survive.

I think we will all know more in the spring, and can compare notes then!

Cheers,

Ed.

We are up here in Las Vegas and doing the same kind of tests. Let's share info to find the best for our area.

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08-25-2008, 08:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
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endeitz Junior Member endeitz's Photo Gallery Location: Central Texas (8a/b) Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 40 BananaBucks : 2,974 Feedback: 0 / 0% Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts Welcomes: 0	Re: Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian I bought both dwarf and tall types from online sources last winter (at least I hope they are the right thing, they are definitely Braz. since the leaves have the right streaking), overwintered them in pots in an attached garage next to a sunny window, and planted them in the ground in late March. The dwarf grew very well by my gardening standards and is now about 8' tall. The tall brazilian did not fare as well, and is only about 6' tall. No, I didn't get them switched at birth (of course one was from Ebay. . .). They both seem to suffer in the Texas sun/heat. It has been absolutely brutal here this summer, with constant >100F high temps. I will be attempting to protect the stems of both this winter (I am 8a, we get down to 15F-ish) with bubble wrap or something similar, and a foot of mulch on the ground. I have pups from the dwarf to put in the garage again, and am hoping the tall one will pup in time that I can save one of those as well. Regardless, I am confident that the mothers will at least come back from the ground, even if the stems don't survive. I think we will all know more in the spring, and can compare notes then! Cheers, Ed.

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