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Tropicallvr 05-14-2007 05:25 PM

Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian
 
I just got a nice Tall brazilian from going bananas, and now I'm thinking I should at least get a dwarf to do a proper cold hardy test :2723: with both.
Has anybody noticed a difference between the two in terms of hardiness?
Or for that matter a difference in hardiness between the dwarf and tall orinoco's? My tall orinoco did really well on the warmer coast, but I gave my dwarf to someone with a greenhouse, so not much to compare.

Simply Bananas 08-25-2008 06:30 PM

Re: Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian
 
How did the comparison work out?

Tropicallvr 08-25-2008 06:55 PM

Re: Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian
 
Never had a chance to test them out.
Someone(Joe Real maybe?) thought the tall version was more cold hardy, but probably tougher to get to fruit than the short one.

Simply Bananas 08-25-2008 07:34 PM

Re: Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian
 
I have a tall one now doing well. Its in its 4th month from a TC. May get dwarfs/dwarves next year if I am lucky.

endeitz 08-25-2008 10:12 PM

Re: Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian
 
I bought both dwarf and tall types from online sources last winter (at least I hope they are the right thing, they are definitely Braz. since the leaves have the right streaking), overwintered them in pots in an attached garage next to a sunny window, and planted them in the ground in late March.

The dwarf grew very well by my gardening standards and is now about 8' tall. The tall brazilian did not fare as well, and is only about 6' tall. No, I didn't get them switched at birth (of course one was from Ebay. . .). They both seem to suffer in the Texas sun/heat. It has been absolutely brutal here this summer, with constant >100F high temps.

I will be attempting to protect the stems of both this winter (I am 8a, we get down to 15F-ish) with bubble wrap or something similar, and a foot of mulch on the ground. I have pups from the dwarf to put in the garage again, and am hoping the tall one will pup in time that I can save one of those as well. Regardless, I am confident that the mothers will at least come back from the ground, even if the stems don't survive.

I think we will all know more in the spring, and can compare notes then!

Cheers,

Ed.

Chironex 08-26-2008 02:46 AM

Re: Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by endeitz (Post 50129)
I bought both dwarf and tall types from online sources last winter (at least I hope they are the right thing, they are definitely Braz. since the leaves have the right streaking), overwintered them in pots in an attached garage next to a sunny window, and planted them in the ground in late March.

The dwarf grew very well by my gardening standards and is now about 8' tall. The tall brazilian did not fare as well, and is only about 6' tall. No, I didn't get them switched at birth (of course one was from Ebay. . .). They both seem to suffer in the Texas sun/heat. It has been absolutely brutal here this summer, with constant >100F high temps.

I will be attempting to protect the stems of both this winter (I am 8a, we get down to 15F-ish) with bubble wrap or something similar, and a foot of mulch on the ground. I have pups from the dwarf to put in the garage again, and am hoping the tall one will pup in time that I can save one of those as well. Regardless, I am confident that the mothers will at least come back from the ground, even if the stems don't survive.

I think we will all know more in the spring, and can compare notes then!

Cheers,

Ed.

We are up here in Las Vegas and doing the same kind of tests. Let's share info to find the best for our area.

Abnshrek 05-11-2010 12:56 PM

Re: Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian
 
I can't believe there isn't any updates on this thread or input? :^)

DaveE 05-13-2010 10:37 PM

Re: Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian
 
Any updates?

Dave

momoese 05-13-2010 10:53 PM

Re: Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian
 
I have both. They both taste great. One is tall, one is short. :)

SoBe Musa 05-14-2010 09:47 AM

Re: Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian
 
Also have both dwarf/tall and even that temperatures here in South Florida don’t get too cold for comparison , this year we had ( here in Miami Beach)low/mid 30s with strong wind chill factor and both did it very well and comparison to Saba ,Kendrian and all other that I grow. Also I got them at going bananas .

Today's pics :
Tall BRAZILIAN - about10/11ft -hold the fruit Through the winter.
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Dwarf BRAZILIAN- about 5 1/2ft it hold the flag also.
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SoBe Musa 09-21-2010 11:55 PM

Re: Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian
 
Here is what is happening with Tall and Dwarf Brazilian..a strong difference in the fruit size and banana count..bunches are from photos posted before.
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Dwarf Brazilian :
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Gabe15 09-22-2010 12:20 AM

Re: Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian
 
Emily, your plants appear both to be 'Dwarf Brazilian'. Only the dwarf has persistent male flowers and bracts like that, the tall falls off right away and when well fed is a much larger plant.

Here is a photo of the tall.

Bananaman88 09-22-2010 12:35 PM

Re: Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian
 
I am growing both, though in different locations. I have the DB in my back yard and the tall Brazilian at my place of work in the city. The city location typically stays several degrees warmer during the winter so it probably won't be a great comparison. I'll try to remember and post what I observe in the spring.

momoese 09-22-2010 01:26 PM

Re: Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian
 
Gabe is correct as usual. My Dwarf holds the bracts and the Tall drops them as fast as they open. The Talls are much taller too. I've had some with 18-20 feet of pseudo stem.

Also the fruits are about the same size and flavor on both of mine.

Dalmatiansoap 09-22-2010 03:38 PM

Re: Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian
 
Naaaaah, Brazilian!!!!
:bungejumpnaner:
:0491:
:bananas_b

momoese 09-22-2010 04:57 PM

Re: Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalmatiansoap (Post 142131)
Naaaaah, Brazilian!!!!
:bungejumpnaner:
:0491:
:bananas_b

Some day Ante. It's hard to believe no one in Croatia has DB. Are you the only guy growing bananas there?

What about Agristarts, can they ship there?

What if I put a small pup inside a stuffed animal and shipped it? Think that would work? :ha: Then it would really be a stuffed animal!

SoBe Musa 09-22-2010 11:09 PM

Re: Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian
 
So, both may be Dwarf ...time for a real tall one ...
One thing they may look close in sizes but the differences are there,i don't know about the leaf deferences.. you guys are the experts.
And the bananas where nice and sweet both thought.
Thanks

momoese 09-23-2010 12:58 AM

Re: Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoBe Musa (Post 142162)
So, both may be Dwarf ...time for a real tall one ...
One thing they may look close in sizes but the differences are there,i don't know about the leaf deferences.. you guys are the experts.
And the bananas where nice and sweet both thought.
Thanks

You want a tall one, lmk

Dalmatiansoap 09-23-2010 04:44 AM

Re: Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian
 
Haha, my day will come momoese:ha:
Thx for the offer but no reason to bother, let us keep animals stuffed in the way they allready are:ha:
:bananas_b

Gabe15 09-23-2010 12:17 PM

Re: Dwarf Brazilian vs Tall Brazilian
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoBe Musa (Post 142162)
So, both may be Dwarf ...time for a real tall one ...
One thing they may look close in sizes but the differences are there,i don't know about the leaf deferences.. you guys are the experts.
And the bananas where nice and sweet both thought.
Thanks

They are definitely both dwarf, but the smaller of your two plants for some reason is struggling. That bunch is very small and the plant is relatively small too. Your "tall" agrees with a typical well nourished 'Dwarf Brazilian', and your "dwarf" agrees with a struggling 'Dwarf Brazilian'. 'Brazilian' (tall) when undernourished typically gets about 10-12ft, while a well nourished plant is typically easily 18-20ft, sometimes even near 25ft.


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