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Old 05-02-2013, 09:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Ok, So tonight was the night that I started pulling my dwarf brazilian and red dwarfs out from dry root storage in my basement. As was suggested in another post, I started by removing all of the dead leaves and rot that was there . I got down to the stems that were not rotted or in the case of some, absolutely nothing, I was just left with the corms. The corms were still hard and didn't have any rot on them which I take to be a good sign? I planted a number of them tonight and hoping for the best. My question is am I doing this right? IS this the norm for what a banana should look like going in the ground in the spring?

Any suggestions would be great, I still have about 20 of them to go yet, quite the process.

One note: the green ones in the back are my basjoos, I'm trying to start them in a hole and once they start growning I will back fill to bring them up to ground level, my goal is to get the corms as deep as possible for overwintering.

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One thing about the corms, wait until you see some growth or signs or growth before you give them tons of water.

The problem with burying the basjoo stems is that they have a high risk of rotting in the winter because they have all this cold, wet soil against the lower part of the pseudostem (the buried part).

Also, if they put on good growth this year which they should, your mat of bananas will be VERY crowded. That can be a good thing or will make more work for you later one.

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I'm prepared to pull some of the basjoos if they become too much. I was running out of places to put them. I'm in the negotiating stage with the wife on taking some of her gardens over, but I have to wait until she acknowledges that she doesn't have time to maintain what she claims to want.... :-)
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Nice..........

Im very curious about the corm storage..............do you have pics.........???

I would like to learn about it..............
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Nice..........

Im very curious about the corm storage..............do you have pics.........???

I would like to learn about it..............
This was my first year digging up what was given to me last year by a school green house program. I initially had them in my basement garage thinking the temps would be fine, but they started to rot once it hit the 40's. So I transfered all of them into my back basement furnace room and simply just laid them around on a sheet of cardboard and let them sit in the dark. I'm now just pulling them out and seeing if I can get them to grow.

The corms seem hard and there's some stalks left, I just hope they grow.
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Hi Doug,

like you I live in HZ 6. But I never take the trouble to dig out my basjoos. Instead I go to the
trouble of mulching them each fall and removing all that mess in spring.

Well, it seems to work better, since my 4 basjoos (all in one pad) are already between 18 inches
and 4 feet high. See my post in: Basjoo and mekong giant winter

However starting next winter the need for mulching will be greatly reduced, since I devised and
assembled a permanent shelter, which will only require some mulching around the base, can be
reused year after year with minimum effort and has the potential to preserve The PSs in the pad
up to 30 inches high, hopefully in good shape.

See: Permanent banana shelter for winter and spring

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Well, I got into the rest of my bananas tonight and feel disappointed. It appears all of my red dwarfs are rotted down into the tops of the corms. Is it even worth trying to plant these things? I scooped out the rot as best I can and now many look like bird nests. Any knowledge on this would be great. If I stick them in the ground, will pups come out of the bottom/sides and grow up? I can't imagine anything coming out the middle.

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I should note that the brazilians seem a bit more hardy, there's at least some stalk left, not much, but some. I'll take some pics. If anyone thinks I'm wasting my time trying to get these things going again, please enlighten me.
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Is it even worth trying to plant these things? I scooped out the rot as best I can and now many look like bird nests. Any knowledge on this would be great. If I stick them in the ground, will pups come out of the bottom/sides and grow up? I can't imagine anything coming out the middle.


I have never tried to grow half a corm, but that is basically, what you do, if you slice off a pup
from the mother plant. Only then each still has some PS left. I would stick them in the ground.
What do you have to lose? But give them at least a couple of months, before you decide to
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Is it even worth trying to plant these things?
Yes. If there's still some healthy tissue in those corms (which there probably is), then they'll probably send up pups.

I recently took a piece of rotting corm that was about the size of a golf ball, cut away the black/slimy part (about 2/3 of it), then planted the tiny bit that was left. After a week or two, the top of it started to form a green nub, which then started pushing out little leaves. Then I accidentally flooded it and killed the little developing pstem. But a couple weeks later another tiny pup began to emerge from the side of the tiny corm, and this new pstem is presently doing well.

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Yes. If there's still some healthy tissue in those corms (which there probably is), then they'll probably send up pups.

I recently took a piece of rotting corm that was about the size of a golf ball, cut away the black/slimy part (about 2/3 of it), then planted the tiny bit that was left. After a week or two, the top of it started to form a green nub, which then started pushing out little leaves. Then I accidentally flooded it and killed the little developing pstem. But a couple weeks later another tiny pup began to emerge from the side of the tiny corm, and this new pstem is presently doing well.

Don't give up till there's nothing left!

Thank you, that is good to know.
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So on my brazilians, it it even worth leaving the stems that are left on there? Or will I just end up with pups coming out the sides?
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Unless they are totally dried or rotted off, I'd leave them there as long as there is some
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It's not so much green as it it white....
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That is probably just a result from not having been exposed to light. A couple of days in sunshine
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Well I planted the remainder of my red dwarfs tonight, we'll see if they sprout. It looked like quite a few had some shoots ready to come out the sides. Fingers crossed!
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let us know Wheelman when they do sprout. Just don't overwater until then...
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So I am seeing in my weekend forecast a low coming up of 36.... would I be wise to put some coverings over my 5 inch tall basjoos that I have in the ground? Would setting up a couple saw horses with plastic draped over them be sufficient enough? I'm thinking my corms that I just stuck in the ground would be fine since there's nothing worthwhile sticking above the ground at this point? Any advice?
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