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Old 06-12-2013, 08:33 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Don't worry about eyes, if the corm is sound, feels like a potato, it will grow.


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New question... what's going on with my basjoos? They are getting splotches all over the leaves and looking a bit crappy. We've had a really wet spring and temps are still not like summer yet here. Combination of wetness and being generally cooler?

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When I moved my healthy looking Ornata from the living room outside, it developed the same
brown blotches (I had left the Basjoos outside during the winter and with them the problem did
not occur)

The Ornatas have now spouted new healthy leaves and I attribute the rusty looking leaves to
transplanting shock.

Methinks you worry too much. Have some confidence in the survival and regeneration capabilities
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When I moved my healthy looking Ornata from the living room outside, it developed the same
brown blotches (I had left the Basjoos outside during the winter and with them the problem did
not occur)

The Ornatas have now spouted new healthy leaves and I attribute the rusty looking leaves to
transplanting shock.

Methinks you worry too much. Have some confidence in the survival and regeneration capabilities
of your bananas.




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I hope, that you made sure, that they were really dead, before you composted them


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Oh, they were dead, total mush and nothing hard on any of them.
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LOL, that sometimes doesn't matter at all for bananas. That's actually how I got into growing bananas and acquired my first ones. My boss was a biology professor at a college with a greenhouse. She took a banana that was 'dead' out to her farm, chopped it into pieces with a machete and threw it in the compost pile. Result: about 10 banana plants grew.

Sometimes when they're 'dead' they're very dead. But other times, they will surprise you with how resilient they are.
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LOL, that sometimes doesn't matter at all for bananas. That's actually how I got into growing bananas and acquired my first ones. My boss was a biology professor at a college with a greenhouse. She took a banana that was 'dead' out to her farm, chopped it into pieces with a machete and threw it in the compost pile. Result: about 10 banana plants grew.

Sometimes when they're 'dead' they're very dead. But other times, they will surprise you with how resilient they are.
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That is a bit more survival, than I would have expected, but I always thought, that a good piece
of corm, as long as it is still firm like a potato would give you a viable plant, - no eye necessary.

After WWII we had hungry times in East Germany and we dared to eat our last seed potatoes, but
not before we peeled them kind of thick, set the peels out on a tray in our bathroom (for humidity)
and after they sprouted, we planted them really carefully. The gods were smiling on us. What
followed was the best potato harvest we ever had.

After just re-reading this, it struck me like one of these soapy stories you read in Reader's Digest.

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Well I dug around a bit more tonight and found some red dwarf bananas that I couldn't pinpoint where I buried them. Everyone was rotted more than when I put them in. I cleaned off as much junk as I could and found a couple hard piece, not very big pieces and put them back in the ground just below the surface and marked them. I'm thinking the reds just aren't hardy enough to over winter where I am dry root. Maybe they would have made it I had them potted up but hindsight is 20-20 at this point. Side note, a few more shoots are popping up on the brazilians. Hopefully I'll be able to split some of those this year to get my banana count back up to where it was last year.

Additional side note.... my tiny basjoos that I got this spring can't seem to grow any bigger than when I got the darn things. They keep putting leaves out but sure don't seem like they're ready to go bigger... They'll be interesting to watch this year, that's for sure.
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So I'm weeding the banana garden tonight and taking notice of a few plants and how many pups there are and I got a question. On the plants that don't have anything coming out of the initial mother stem (totally died back) and are all pups, could I split that mother stump down the middle and make two plants with a few pups each? See the attached pics. I'm noticing that those with many pups don't seem to be growing fast and I'm chalking that up to the pups all needing nutrient support. Take look at the third adn fourth photos to see what I'm talking about specifically. There's nothing coming out of the middle, so I'm thinking that splitting it may not kill it (either half that is).

I have room in the garden to split some since none of my red dwarfs survived, it's all dwarf brazilians from here out out.

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Of course yo can do that. Just use a nice sharp knife to to that, not a hatched or such.
The cleaner the cut and the less of the corm's tissue you crush, the higher the probability
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Could you split it? Yes. Should you split it? Questionable. Personally, I don't feel like the stress of splitting them/replanting is going to make them grow any faster. Plus then they'd each have half the roots/corm to take nutrients from. I'm sure you could split them and keep both parts alive just fine, but I don't believe the ends justify the means. Especially if the concern is that they aren't growing as fast as other plants....separating will likely just set them back farther.

IMO, just let it go. Maybe it will grow a little slower than others or take a while to get started, but then I'm sure they will do just fine.
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Could you split it? Yes. Should you split it? Questionable. Personally, I don't feel like the stress of splitting them/replanting is going to make them grow any faster.
Of course it would not make them "grow any faster". It all depends on what Doug wants to achieve.

If he wants singles or pairs for easy cultivation and fruiting, he will have to split them up. If he wants
them, like I do, for decorative purposes, pads might be more attractive., but if he wanted to keep them
as pads of three or more, he would not have asked about splitting them up.

When transplanting bananas there is always the danger of a period of stagnation, but if he maintains
as much of the status quo, i.e., keep them facing in the same direction, plant them in similar soil as
well as sun/shade exposure etc., chances are, that they might not even blink.

To Doug: Please read up on some of the earlier posts in this thread.

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On splitting corms see also this recent post:
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Thanks for the replies. I'm on the fence with what to do at this point. I really have 2 solid months more of good growing time left. I'd like to split them but I'm not sure they'll be hardy enough to survive a winter in the basement with such a short amount of time to become their own. I feel like if I just leave them in I'll have some seriously strong corms overall.

Side note: a new one popped through that I didn't know I had planted, bonus!
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