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Old 05-08-2013, 09:36 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Looks good so far! Seems that things have been at least fairly successful. Overwintering is not easy, and it seems as though things are more or less solid for you. Leave on as much p-stem as long as it is solid and not rotted (white is fine....like stated, it's just a lack of sunlight that causes this color (or rather, lack of color)). Remove as much rot as you can from the reds and see what happens....bananas are surprisingly hardcore plants and may pull through once in the ground. Also, concerning your comments on D. Brazilian....I have one I got last summer and must say I'm surprised at how resilient it has been during winter. Mine was kept potted in a window and though it didn't really grow much all winter, the leaves held on it VERY well and there has been nearly no loss of p-stem diameter, old leaves, etc. This cannot be said for any of my other plants....definitely keeping this one!
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Looks good so far! Seems that things have been at least fairly successful. Overwintering is not easy, and it seems as though things are more or less solid for you.
Hi Ryan,

Speaking of which, I have just finished posting detailed assembly instructions for effective,
permanently reusable winter shelters for bananas. 3 shelters like I have assembled,
two for my single stem bananas and the third for a whole pad of four stems cost me less
than $55.- total. Though there may be a few more dollars for the fibre glass stuffing, which I
will add in fall.

The shelters are easily taken off and put on again during erratic spring
temperatures.

Check it out here: Permanent banana shelter for winter and spring



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So does anyone think I should be covering things this weekend? Lows in the mid 30's sound like they're coming.
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I vote 'yes' for covering. I've heard reds are particularly cold sensitive.
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Reds will not do well in the 30s at all. If you have anything in containers, bring those in. With the planted nanners definitely cover them well!
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I've got plastic down, had to overlap 4 sheets of it, outside of my 6 inch basjoos, the other corms are in ground and not sprouting anything, so I doubt those will be affected much. It's just Sunday's lows I have to worry about, next week it warms back up again. Tonight is a low of 42, low of 38 tomorrow, 34 Sunday and 45 Monday. Then back up to low of 55 Tuesday. Now I just have to keep them from blowing away from the wind. Sunday is showing wind in the forecast....
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hopefully that will be the last of your temps in the 30s for this season!
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One more night and ill breath easy. I have plastic pots over as much as I can cover at this point. The wind has been brutal to my little 5-6 inch basjoo bananas. I just need some nice hot weather to kick start them and get them established.
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Well, I'm through the frosts I think. Nothing lower than 50 anymore. I have to say this, I am seeing nothing from my reds or brazilians. The brazilians have all lost most of whatever stems they had, I suspect I'll be lucky if I get pups to push out and start growing. Fingers crossed on these as my source for all of these bananas from last year didn't bring any in for his mother's day sale, so it doesn't look like i'll be getting leftovers once his school program lets out for the summer.
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So how long before I'll see any growth after putting these corms in the ground? So far I'm seeing zero movement. I've got canna roots I put in three weeks ago that are pushing sprouts up yet I'm seeing nothing from either type of banana. I'm wondering if banana corms are more sensitive to soil temperature maybe? I know our winter lasted longer than normal and I'm thinking the soil temps were behind. Anyone have thoughts on this?
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Hi Doug,
first question: How warm is you soil??? I have played with the thought to accelerate spring
revival, by pouring water around the corm, although I have not yet done so. 100^F should
be save, even if it hits the plant directly, since it is exposed to that kind of temp. on sunny days
anyway and the soil will cool it down on contact. 120^ should be okay if no parts of your
banana are contacted directly.

Here is a repeat post of mine, which I placed into the "Help" thread:
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bananas do not take well to transplanting. Sometimes they take it without even blinking and
other time they might take up to two months, before showing any real progress.

If you have a sound corm (firm like a potato), you have a banana plant. The frost might have
singed your leaves, but it is highly unlikely, that it got to your corm. So just leave it as it is and
have a bit of patience. UNQUOTE

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Hi Doug,
first question: How warm is you soil??? I have played with the thought to accelerate spring
revival, by pouring water around the corm, although I have not yet done so. 100^F should
be save, even if it hits the plant directly, since it is exposed to that kind of temp. on sunny days
anyway and the soil will cool it down on contact. 120^ should be okay if no parts of your
banana are contacted directly.

Here is a repeat post of mine, which I placed into the "Help" thread:
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Hi Tiffany,

bananas do not take well to transplanting. Sometimes they take it without even blinking and
other time they might take up to two months, before showing any real progress.

If you have a sound corm (firm like a potato), you have a banana plant. The frost might have
singed your leaves, but it is highly unlikely, that it got to your corm. So just leave it as it is and
have a bit of patience. UNQUOTE

Good Luck!
Olaf

I'm not sure what temp my soil is unfortunately. As for the bananas, there's no stalk left on any of them (reds or brazilians). When I planted them I made not that there was at least one "eye" that looked like it would put something out the side, but I wasn't expecting anything to come from what stalks were left.

Interesting note, even the brazilian I kept in a pot indoors lost it's main stalk and now I'm working off of a small pump that sprouted last winter.

Because I'm in michigan and the bananas I had last year were reds and brazilian, I had no choice but to dig them up. I went with the bare root method and wondering if I made the right choice. If they do grow this year I may try digging up a hunk of dirt and doing a pot for the winter.... time will tell what I get. In the meantime I've invested in basjoos to get my permanate tropical look.
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I'm not sure what temp my soil is unfortunately. As for the bananas, there's no stalk left on any of them (reds or brazilians). When I planted them I made not that there was at least one "eye" that looked like it would put something out the side, but I wasn't expecting anything to come from what stalks were left.
Don't worry about eyes, if the corm is sound, feels like a potato, it will grow.

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"Dem's de breaks" I have no idea, what caused your main stem to deteriorate, but the plant will live on!
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Because I'm in michigan and the bananas I had last year were reds and brazilian, I had no choice but to dig them up. I went with the bare root method and wondering if I made the right choice. If they do grow this year I may try digging up a hunk of dirt and doing a pot for the winter.... time will tell what I get. In the meantime I've invested in basjoos to get my permanate tropical look.

Of course you had the choice to leave them outdoors, with the proper protection. I live in
Canada same HZ as you and would never do the bare root thing. First year pups I take inside
in a pot. after that they are protected outdoors.



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If you want to do that water thing, you do not need to know the present temps. of the soil. It is
bound to be cool. I hade one of mine frozen to the ground due to shifting protection (that is what
inspired me to come up with my permanent shelter). That one has already sent up a pup, which is
now 7 inches high (just went out to measure it )


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I don't think a dwarf red and brazilian would go through my winter even with protection, nothing I've read about them suggests that. I'm hanging my hat on musa basjoo at this point for keeping them in the ground.

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Well I couldn't resist, after staring at my corms in the ground for about a month now and seeing nothing going on with them I had to dig a few and see if anything happening. Long story short, a couple have some roots growing out of them and a few have nothing but are still hard. Time will tell, I think it's just a matter of the soil being cooler than normal this spring.
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Well my brazilians, all of which had 2.5" of stalk left have decided to wake up. I'm seeing movement from most of the stalks now at this point. The Reds have been frustrating, still seeing nothing. I went to dig up a few because I had forgotten where I actually buried them and couldn't spot them and found a few, one looked like I might have some growth coming from an eye out the side, another was deader than dean and totally soft, and another I think had two short little roots coming out of it. Keeping my fingers crossed I'll see the majority of these things pull through.


I think this winter I will be getting 5 gal buckets and digging up as much of the bananas as possible and taking them indoor and not dry root storing them.

I'll update as things progress for those that are still monitoring this thread.
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This pic was taken March 2nd.
It was taken after 6 months in the basement...I keep mine in pots and pot up as they grow.
I brought them out to spray and let them get some sunlight.
All plants are stressed from winter storage.
All the leaves that you see are new leaves that were in the Pstem at time of storage,they just pop out during storage. I do not try to grow these plants.
Most of the leaves you see are frail and lifeless and have since been replaced with tough thick and more sturdy leaves as things heat up and summer gets going.
Keep up the good work .......And if you see black landscape pots in someones trash pick them up ....sounds like your going to need them

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This pic was taken March 2nd.
It was taken after 6 months in the basement...I keep mine in pots and pot up as they grow.
I brought them out to spray and let them get some sunlight.
All plants are stressed from winter storage.
All the leaves that you see are new leaves that were in the Pstem at time of storage,they just pop out during storage. I do not try to grow these plants.
Most of the leaves you see are frail and lifeless and have since been replaced with tough thick and more sturdy leaves as things heat up and summer gets going.
Keep up the good work .......And if you see black landscape pots in someones trash pick them up ....sounds like your going to need them

I think I'm going to keep an eye out for some 5 gal pails, I sell chemicals for a living so I think I'm going to tell my customers to save them for me.
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Have so say I'm very happy right now. The only thing I want to happen now is for a red dwarf to pop in some way shape or form.

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