Bananas.org

Welcome to the Bananas.org forums.

You're currently viewing our message boards as a guest which gives you limited access to participate in discussions and access our other features such as our wiki and photo gallery. By joining our community, you'll have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Go Back   Bananas.org > Banana Forum > Cold Hardy Bananas
Register Photo Gallery Classifieds Wiki Chat Map Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Cold Hardy Bananas This forum is dedicated to the discussion of bananas that are able to grow and thrive in cold areas. You'll find lots of tips and discussions about keeping your bananas over the winter.


Members currently in the chatroom: 0
The most chatters online in one day was 17, 09-06-2009.
No one is currently using the chat.

Reply   Email this Page Email this Page
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 07-25-2014, 09:24 PM   #21 (permalink)
 
Duckfood's Avatar
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
Zone: 7
Name: Michael
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 329
BananaBucks : 39,265
Feedback: 2 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 1,084 Times
Was Thanked 275 Times in 133 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 361 Times
Default Re: Deep Planted Basjoo Dying?

Quote:
Originally Posted by cincinnana View Post
pics if you need them.
Of course!!!
__________________
By the way, there is no cure for the human disease of growing bananas. ~~~ Richard 05/22/2014...
Duckfood is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Duckfood
Said thanks:
Old 07-25-2014, 09:35 PM   #22 (permalink)
 
Location: Newfoundland, NJ
Zone: 6a
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 63
BananaBucks : 13,522
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 6 Times
Was Thanked 23 Times in 14 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1 Times
Default Re: Deep Planted Basjoo Dying?

Quote:
Originally Posted by cincinnana View Post
Here is a pic just taken....
Your plants must be the size in the middle of the pics 3-5 feet in order for success planted at 7-12 inches.
If your pants are not that big.....put them in a pot overwinter them in your basement/garage and plant then at the deeper depth in the spring.
Check out my Flikr page....for possible ideas.
This is only my opinion.....
Pot sizes to plant
for basement storage, I think my garage is too cold, do you suggest just dropping them in a pot or fill with peat moss or dirt? There will be no light in the basement.
RafaelNJ is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To RafaelNJ
Old 07-25-2014, 09:38 PM   #23 (permalink)
container grower
 
cincinnana's Avatar
 
Location: Southwest Ohio U.S.A.🇺🇸
Zone: HZ 6/5 Microclimate - Elevation 750 feet- 228.60 meters
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 8,782
BananaBucks : 525
Feedback: 7 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 3,865 Times
Was Thanked 11,705 Times in 4,870 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,943 Times
Default Re: Deep Planted Basjoo Dying?

Quote:
Originally Posted by RafaelNJ View Post
The one i planted a food deep I should dig up and replant shallower? its about 3 1/2 feet tall but i am afraid its already in shock so will digging it up make it worse?
If you have more than 1 try it out.....
Keep it in the ground....it will grow till frost and then some.
The corm is the only thing you want to grow/ protect at this point.
I will not transplant after July/ August because my plants will not recover( grow awesome root structure) for the winter dormancy in the basement.
__________________
🌴
cincinnana is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To cincinnana
Old 07-25-2014, 09:43 PM   #24 (permalink)
 
Location: Newfoundland, NJ
Zone: 6a
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 63
BananaBucks : 13,522
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 6 Times
Was Thanked 23 Times in 14 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1 Times
Default Re: Deep Planted Basjoo Dying?

Quote:
Originally Posted by cincinnana View Post
If you have more than 1 try it out.....
Keep it in the ground....it will grow till frost and then some.
The corm is the only thing you want to grow/ protect at this point.
I will not transplant after July/ August because my plants will not recover( grow awesome root structure) for the winter dormancy in the basement.
I am a bit confused by this, you grow a root structure for dormancy? I thought when dormant that doesnt matter, I see people cut all the roots off to store in dormancy on some youtube videos and store out of soil. How exactly do you overwinter them in basement if you dont mind me asking?
RafaelNJ is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To RafaelNJ
Old 07-25-2014, 09:44 PM   #25 (permalink)
container grower
 
cincinnana's Avatar
 
Location: Southwest Ohio U.S.A.🇺🇸
Zone: HZ 6/5 Microclimate - Elevation 750 feet- 228.60 meters
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 8,782
BananaBucks : 525
Feedback: 7 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 3,865 Times
Was Thanked 11,705 Times in 4,870 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,943 Times
Default Re: Deep Planted Basjoo Dying?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Duckfood View Post
Of course!!!
Argh.....
I will get right on that.......
__________________
🌴
cincinnana is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To cincinnana
Said thanks:
Old 07-25-2014, 09:54 PM   #26 (permalink)
container grower
 
cincinnana's Avatar
 
Location: Southwest Ohio U.S.A.🇺🇸
Zone: HZ 6/5 Microclimate - Elevation 750 feet- 228.60 meters
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 8,782
BananaBucks : 525
Feedback: 7 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 3,865 Times
Was Thanked 11,705 Times in 4,870 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,943 Times
Talking Re: Deep Planted Basjoo Dying?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Duckfood View Post
Of course!!!
Photo just taken.
Small Basjoo in new home.
Pretty dark out
Photo is my ae ae mat
__________________
🌴

Last edited by cincinnana : 07-26-2014 at 10:36 AM.
cincinnana is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To cincinnana
Said thanks:
Old 07-25-2014, 10:00 PM   #27 (permalink)
container grower
 
cincinnana's Avatar
 
Location: Southwest Ohio U.S.A.🇺🇸
Zone: HZ 6/5 Microclimate - Elevation 750 feet- 228.60 meters
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 8,782
BananaBucks : 525
Feedback: 7 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 3,865 Times
Was Thanked 11,705 Times in 4,870 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,943 Times
Smile Re: Deep Planted Basjoo Dying?

Quote:
Originally Posted by RafaelNJ View Post
for basement storage, I think my garage is too cold, do you suggest just dropping them in a pot or fill with peat moss or dirt? There will be no light in the basement.
I do store them in containers in the basement with pretty good results so far.
__________________
🌴

Last edited by cincinnana : 08-08-2014 at 07:38 PM.
cincinnana is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To cincinnana
Said thanks:
Old 07-25-2014, 10:26 PM   #28 (permalink)
 
Location: Newfoundland, NJ
Zone: 6a
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 63
BananaBucks : 13,522
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 6 Times
Was Thanked 23 Times in 14 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1 Times
Default Re: Deep Planted Basjoo Dying?

Quote:
Originally Posted by cincinnana View Post
I do....
:08
u do what ? lol
man I wish you were close by so I could come buy a few off of you.....
RafaelNJ is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To RafaelNJ
Old 07-26-2014, 09:42 AM   #29 (permalink)
 
Location: Newfoundland, NJ
Zone: 6a
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 63
BananaBucks : 13,522
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 6 Times
Was Thanked 23 Times in 14 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1 Times
Default Re: Deep Planted Basjoo Dying?

Quote:
Originally Posted by cincinnana View Post
I do store them in containers in the basement with pretty good results so far.
:08
How do you store them in containers? free of soil or with soild just like outside in summer? or perhaps peat moss like many store their tropical plant bulbs like colocasias? do you use grow lights or just in the dark.
RafaelNJ is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To RafaelNJ
Old 07-26-2014, 10:29 AM   #30 (permalink)
container grower
 
cincinnana's Avatar
 
Location: Southwest Ohio U.S.A.🇺🇸
Zone: HZ 6/5 Microclimate - Elevation 750 feet- 228.60 meters
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 8,782
BananaBucks : 525
Feedback: 7 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 3,865 Times
Was Thanked 11,705 Times in 4,870 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,943 Times
Smile Re: Deep Planted Basjoo Dying?

Quote:
Originally Posted by RafaelNJ View Post
How do you store them in containers? free of soil or with soild just like outside in summer? or perhaps peat moss like many store their tropical plant bulbs like colocasias? do you use grow lights or just in the dark.
The photo shown is when I line them up and spray for insects before I bring them in the basement, photo is from last fall.
I do nothing except spray for insects and I leave all containers intact.The plants just stop all growing activity The containers are stored side by side in a dark basement with BARE MINIMUM LIGHT AND WATER.
I only use grow lights on a few special plants which are kept in a heated area.

There are many threads on this subject that go into detail and are pretty informative, just pick which method that suits you best,
there is no wrong way to do it.

Once you get the hang of it and you get a few seasons under your belt, storing them becomes routine. I am still learning new stuff every year.
__________________
🌴

Last edited by cincinnana : 07-27-2014 at 06:55 AM.
cincinnana is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To cincinnana
Old 07-26-2014, 03:50 PM   #31 (permalink)
 
Location: Newfoundland, NJ
Zone: 6a
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 63
BananaBucks : 13,522
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 6 Times
Was Thanked 23 Times in 14 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1 Times
Default Re: Deep Planted Basjoo Dying?

Quote:
Originally Posted by cincinnana View Post
The photo shown is when I line them up and spray for insects before I bring them in the basement, photo is from last fall.
I do nothing except spray for insects and I leave all containers intact.The plants just stop all growing activity The containers are stored side by side in a dark basement with BARE MINIMUM LIGHT AND WATER.
I only use grow lights on a few special plants which are kept in a heated area.

There are many threads on this subject that go into detail and are pretty informative, just pick which method that suits you best.

Once you get the hang of it and you get a few seasons under your belt storing them becomes routine. I am still learning new stuff every year.
Yes there is so many different techniques it can get a bit hard figuring out which is best, it seems like you have it figured out so I would like to try your method my first year. Will just bringing containers into an unheated basement work for me? I am still not certain of the temperature there but I imagine its somewhere between 50-60, the furnace is there. However, I have no light at all so it is pitch black, unless someone comes down to do laundry or to use the computer (which will be moved upstairs before this winter). I am afraid if I leave foliage and soil like you they might rot/die with no light at all and moisture in the soild? I am wondering why are you storing such big bananas inside if you are doing so well with deep planting? is it just because you want large plants early in the season?
RafaelNJ is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To RafaelNJ

Join Bananas.org Today!

Are you a banana plant enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Bananas.org is owned and operated by fellow banana plant enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information. Receive all three issues from Volume 1 of Bananas Magazine with your membership:
   

Join Bananas.org Today! - Click Here


Sponsors

Old 07-26-2014, 06:15 PM   #32 (permalink)
 
Duckfood's Avatar
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
Zone: 7
Name: Michael
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 329
BananaBucks : 39,265
Feedback: 2 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 1,084 Times
Was Thanked 275 Times in 133 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 361 Times
Default Re: Deep Planted Basjoo Dying?

Quote:
Originally Posted by cincinnana View Post
Photo just taken.
Small Basjoo in new home.
Pretty dark out
Photo is my ae ae mat
You weren't kidding when you said "BARE MINIMUM LIGHT," were you???
__________________
By the way, there is no cure for the human disease of growing bananas. ~~~ Richard 05/22/2014...
Duckfood is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Duckfood
Old 07-26-2014, 09:18 PM   #33 (permalink)
container grower
 
cincinnana's Avatar
 
Location: Southwest Ohio U.S.A.🇺🇸
Zone: HZ 6/5 Microclimate - Elevation 750 feet- 228.60 meters
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 8,782
BananaBucks : 525
Feedback: 7 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 3,865 Times
Was Thanked 11,705 Times in 4,870 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,943 Times
Default Re: Deep Planted Basjoo Dying?

Quote:
Originally Posted by RafaelNJ View Post
I am wondering why are you storing such big bananas inside if you are doing so well with deep planting? is it just because you want large plants early in the season?
Most of my basjoos will stay outside and the majority of my other plants (bananas/ferns) are not cool/cold tolerant so they must come inside once the season ends. I have more room in the basement for storing plants.
If your plants are on the small side just put them close to an upstairs window they will adjust to their new home.

I grow the banana plant for the tropical foliage and since my growing season is so short I will not get fruit.
__________________
🌴

Last edited by cincinnana : 07-26-2014 at 09:25 PM.
cincinnana is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To cincinnana
Old 07-27-2014, 11:14 AM   #34 (permalink)
 
Location: Newfoundland, NJ
Zone: 6a
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 63
BananaBucks : 13,522
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 6 Times
Was Thanked 23 Times in 14 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1 Times
Default Re: Deep Planted Basjoo Dying?

Quote:
Originally Posted by cincinnana View Post
Most of my basjoos will stay outside and the majority of my other plants (bananas/ferns) are not cool/cold tolerant so they must come inside once the season ends. I have more room in the basement for storing plants.
If your plants are on the small side just put them close to an upstairs window they will adjust to their new home.

I grow the banana plant for the tropical foliage and since my growing season is so short I will not get fruit.
Well my basement has no windows (besides one small one that is boarded up and under the outside deck). I cannot bring the bananas inside the house as I have no space and my wife would now allow it ( she wants nothing to do with plants inside :/). I already will be storing some small colocasias/alocasias inside this winter so Basjoos will stay in the basement in complete darkness. That is why I am worried leaving soil in pots like you do if you have any light for yours to grow. I am afraid mine will rot with the moisture and darkness and that is why I Wanted to know exact details of how you do it and if you think I can do the same thing you do without light. Then again I seen people pull the roots out from soil and still rot in the winter. I do not have many plants and still new to this so I am afraid to lose my crop.
RafaelNJ is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To RafaelNJ
Old 07-27-2014, 11:16 AM   #35 (permalink)
 
Location: Newfoundland, NJ
Zone: 6a
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 63
BananaBucks : 13,522
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 6 Times
Was Thanked 23 Times in 14 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1 Times
Default Re: Deep Planted Basjoo Dying?

Quote:
Originally Posted by cincinnana View Post
Most of my basjoos will stay outside and the majority of my other plants (bananas/ferns) are not cool/cold tolerant so they must come inside once the season ends. I have more room in the basement for storing plants.
If your plants are on the small side just put them close to an upstairs window they will adjust to their new home.

I grow the banana plant for the tropical foliage and since my growing season is so short I will not get fruit.
no fruit for you at all? I have seen a guy in new hampshare growing banas for fruit so I would have though you definitely would have had some. its another thing about getting them to ripen.
RafaelNJ is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To RafaelNJ
Sponsors

Old 07-27-2014, 12:12 PM   #36 (permalink)
Relaxin Under the Nanners
 
Hammocked Banana's Avatar
 
Location: Toronto, ON and Peterborough, ON
Zone: 6a and 5a respectively
Name: Brady
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 958
BananaBucks : 53,068
Feedback: 2 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 3,178 Times
Was Thanked 1,156 Times in 555 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 30 Times
Default Re: Deep Planted Basjoo Dying?

Pot them up and put them in the basement. Dont water the soil basically at all, maybe just once or twice during the winter, and small amounts.
Hammocked Banana is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Hammocked Banana
Said thanks:
Old 07-28-2014, 01:25 PM   #37 (permalink)
 
Location: Newfoundland, NJ
Zone: 6a
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 63
BananaBucks : 13,522
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 6 Times
Was Thanked 23 Times in 14 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1 Times
Default Re: Deep Planted Basjoo Dying?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammocked Banana View Post
Pot them up and put them in the basement. Dont water the soil basically at all, maybe just once or twice during the winter, and small amounts.
I will try that thanks!
RafaelNJ is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To RafaelNJ
Old 08-07-2014, 10:24 AM   #38 (permalink)
 
Location: Newfoundland, NJ
Zone: 6a
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 63
BananaBucks : 13,522
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 6 Times
Was Thanked 23 Times in 14 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1 Times
Default Re: Deep Planted Basjoo Dying?

So I have been itching to look inside the one leaf that was left on the plant (the leaf that was coming out when I bought the plant and just got stuck half way out once planted) for a couple of days and yesterday finally opened up the leaf to see what is inside. I found a new leaf emerging to my surprise so it looks like the plant survived and its starting to grow again. The trunk was looking a lot worse then the other plant I planted normally (and it was a bit softer) so I thought this plant was a gonner. Now I only hope it survives the winter in the ground as I cannot seeing producing much this season. I was wondering why do you spray the plants for bugs in the winter? I figured it would be cold enough that no bugs would be a problem, should I be doing the same with only a few plants and you do it because of the amount of them you have?
RafaelNJ is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To RafaelNJ
Old 08-07-2014, 11:56 AM   #39 (permalink)
Relaxin Under the Nanners
 
Hammocked Banana's Avatar
 
Location: Toronto, ON and Peterborough, ON
Zone: 6a and 5a respectively
Name: Brady
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 958
BananaBucks : 53,068
Feedback: 2 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 3,178 Times
Was Thanked 1,156 Times in 555 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 30 Times
Default Re: Deep Planted Basjoo Dying?

I spray in the fall so I don't bring bugs inside. For outdoor basjoos, I never spray them. Maybe if I got some crazy infestation but luckily in Canada the worst damage happens from slugs and grasshoppers.
Hammocked Banana is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Hammocked Banana
Old 08-07-2014, 01:47 PM   #40 (permalink)
 
Location: Newfoundland, NJ
Zone: 6a
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 63
BananaBucks : 13,522
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 6 Times
Was Thanked 23 Times in 14 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1 Times
Default Re: Deep Planted Basjoo Dying?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammocked Banana View Post
I spray in the fall so I don't bring bugs inside. For outdoor basjoos, I never spray them. Maybe if I got some crazy infestation but luckily in Canada the worst damage happens from slugs and grasshoppers.
What do you spray with? just soap and water?
RafaelNJ is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To RafaelNJ
Reply   Email this Page Email this Page

Previous Thread: New bananas
Next Thread: Musa Pacha Nadaan





Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dying Basjoo? Scijox Cold Hardy Bananas 12 08-01-2018 05:03 AM
Help!! newly planted 6' stalk dying... Eddo Member Introductions 4 04-04-2013 11:54 PM
Musa Basjoo - Just planted - What do you think? caned Main Banana Discussion 5 05-20-2012 10:04 PM
Experience in deep planting Basjoo? Olafhenny Main Banana Discussion 7 10-05-2011 08:05 PM
How deep in the ground do basjoo corms go? wxman Main Banana Discussion 1 03-17-2009 10:50 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:49 AM.





All content © Bananas.org & the respective author.