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Tytaylor77 06-08-2017 02:39 AM

Re: The cold hardy list
 
Mine shoots 80% white every leaf! Send some of that green my way! Haha. What are you gonna replace the Williams with? Sweetheart! Praying Hands!

I have a few Saba pups lmao. AEAE looks great!

meizzwang 06-08-2017 12:33 PM

Re: The cold hardy list
 
Thanks Ty! Yeah, when I first bought this aeae clone, it was heavily variegated, but after adding an ton of P&K to the soil just before the cold set in (I think it had a lot of Calcium in it), the leaves turned solid green with no variegation.

SH-3640 is going to replace Williams, but I'm optimistically cautious about this clone because based on the way it's "behaving" so far (ie. taking more than a month from a healthy, strong sword pup with roots to form its first leaf), it might not be as cold hardy as many of the other cultivars. The varieties that require higher temps to grow normally tend to be less cold hardy from my experience, but that's very limited and you never know.

Anyone else have feedback regarding SH-3640's cold tolerance?

sputinc7 06-08-2017 12:51 PM

Re: The cold hardy list
 
Mine held nice green leaves as well as Brazilian last winter, uncovered in a couple low 30's frosts. Kept growing through the winter. Sigatoka must be dealt with, though. Neem oil is helpful for that.
I remember it took about a month to get going when I planted mine. I remember worrying something was wrong. It was a 3 foot pup with lots of roots and freshly dug just a couple hours before, from Worm Farmer. (Anyone heard from him recently?)

FusionGalaxy 07-16-2017 04:08 PM

Re: The cold hardy list
 
Is the Musa Blue Java considered cold Hardy as well?

luisport 07-16-2017 04:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FusionGalaxy (Post 307317)
Is the Musa Blue Java considered cold Hardy as well?

For me it is. It survived last winter coldest lows i got and regrowth from the ground.

Tytaylor77 07-18-2017 08:34 AM

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Mine also! I find the real blue java is more cold hardy than namwas. Namwa is a way faster grower though. Blue java also takes longer to flower for me. It will take another year to verify this.

meizzwang 08-29-2017 04:33 PM

Re: The cold hardy list
 
After almost a year of only producing mostly green leaves, this Aeae is finally producing its first leaf filled with beautiful variegation! We had a heatwave recently, which caused some of the white pigments to overheat and burn. This plant isn't the most cold hardy, so it'll be interesting to see if we can get it to fruit up here in Northern California. I'm not aware of anyone successfully getting Aeae to produce mature bananas this far North. Photo taken 8/29/17:

Richard 08-29-2017 04:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by meizzwang (Post 308982)
... This plant isn't the most cold hardy, so it'll be interesting to see if we can get it to fruit up here in Northern California.
...

If you are truly in cold hardiness zone 9b it should not be a problem. What community are you located in?

NZBanana 04-26-2018 09:58 PM

Re: The cold hardy list
 
Nice list thanks guys

luar1976 09-17-2019 01:55 AM

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:2691:

Which varieties of bananas grow above 7 meters, 23 feets and resist zone 8?
Banana trees that produce seeds.
:bananarow:

giorgosgr 03-22-2020 10:59 AM

Re: The cold hardy list
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lkstapleton (Post 94024)
I also see that Thousand Fingers is very cold hardy, according to this list, and I've seen other lists that say the same thing. Has anyone actually fruited one? It looks amazing, with that huge banana stalk hanging down, in all the pictures I've seen.

Lisa

Does anyone know how long does 1000 fingers take from flower to fruit in mediterenian climate?

GStone 07-10-2021 09:27 PM

Re: The cold hardy list
 
Can someone tell me the source of this list? I'd like to share it, but I want to give credit. Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 84962)
Here is a list of Edible Bananas sorted by estimated USDA Cold-hardiness Zone. Your mileage may vary:

Name USDA_Hardiness_Estimate
Texas Star 7.0
Amistad 7.5
Carolina King 7.5
Golden Rhinohorn 7.5
1000 Fingers 8.0
Dwarf Orinoco 8.0
Orinoco 8.0
California Gold 8.5
Cardaba 8.5
Double 8.5
Dwarf Brazilian 8.5
Dwarf Puerto Rican 8.5
Ebun Musak 8.5
French Horn 8.5
Giant Plantain 8.5
Goldfinger 8.5
Gran Nain 8.5
High Color Mini 8.5
Ice Cream 8.5
Kalela 8.5
Lady Finger 8.5
Mahoi 8.5
Mauritius 8.5
Mona Lisa 8.5
Monkey Fingers 8.5
Mysore 8.5
Pisang Ceylon 8.5
Pitogo 8.5
Rajapuri 8.5
Saba 8.5
1780 hybrid 9.0
African Rhino Horn 9.0
Argentino 9.0
Belle 9.0
Brazilian 9.0
Dwarf Cavendish 9.0
Dwarf Namwa 9.0
Dwarf Thai 9.0
FHIA-18 9.0
FHIA-20 9.0
FHIA-21 Plantain 9.0
FHIA-23 9.0
Green Red 9.0
Hua Moa 9.0
Iholena 9.0
Kandrian 9.0
Misi Luki of Samoa 9.0
Pace 9.0
Popoulu kaia 9.0
Red Iholene 9.0
Red Jewel 9.0
Sweetheart 9.0
Tuu Gia 9.0
White Iholena 9.0
Williams Hybrid 9.0
Zan Moreno 9.0
Ae Ae 9.5
Dwarf French 9.5
Ele Ele 9.5
Enano Nautia 9.5
FHIA-17 9.5
Golden Beauty 9.5
Manzano 9.5
Namwa 9.5
Pisang Buai 9.5
Praying Hands 9.5
Sumatrana X Gran Nain 9.5
Super Plantain 9.5
Tall Red 9.5
Valery 9.5
Kaulau 10.0
Kofi 10.0
Pisang Klutuk 10.0
Cavendish (banana) 10.5
Cocos 11.0
Dwarf Gros Michel 11.0
Dwarf Red 11.0
Gros Michel 11.0
Jamaican Red 11.0
Kappa Pazham 11.0
Pisang Tandok 11.0
Rose 11.0
Karat 12.0
Kru 12.0
Latundan 12.0
Nino 12.0
Utafun 12.0


lkstapleton 08-15-2021 09:22 PM

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My California Gold's first full-sized bananas. Previous ones were only about 4 inches long, probably because they bloomed in November rather than May.Attachment 3677
Lisa:woohoonaner:

lkstapleton 08-16-2021 02:16 AM

Re: The cold hardy list
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GStone (Post 343040)
Can someone tell me the source of this list? I'd like to share it, but I want to give credit. Thanks!

It looks like one that Joe Real of Northern California posted to the California Rare Fruit Growers site about ten years ago, but I am not positive it is the exact same list.

lkstapleton 08-16-2021 02:18 AM

Re: The cold hardy list
 
This list looks like one that Joe Real of Northern California posted to the California Rare Fruit Growers site about ten years ago, but I am not positive it is the exact same list.

Polypterus 08-16-2021 09:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GStone (Post 343040)
Can someone tell me the source of this list? I'd like to share it, but I want to give credit. Thanks!

Does anyone have recommendations for dessert bananas that will grow in 8a? I was looking at that list, but it seems like a few of the varieties on it may not actually exist, and the list itself may be outdated.

cincinnana 08-17-2021 06:46 PM

Re: The cold hardy list
 
While some name changes have happened......this list is still very accurate.
The popular plants that are listed are available and easily obtainable on the web .
You might be limited with your choices for your zone.
Do you have a preference of a plant?

Not much has changed....however if you have a special request ......share it with us ....one of the fellas might have one for you..
Good luck with your desert choice

Polypterus 08-19-2021 06:38 PM

Re: The cold hardy list
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cincinnana (Post 344070)
While some name changes have happened......this list is still very accurate.
The popular plants that are listed are available and easily obtainable on the web .
You might be limited with your choices for your zone.
Do you have a preference of a plant?

Not much has changed....however if you have a special request ......share it with us ....one of the fellas might have one for you..
Good luck with your desert choice

1000 Finger, Ice Cream, Lady Fingers, and dwarf Namwah all peak my interest, but I think based off the list, I'd be best off trying 1000 Finger, or maybe ice cream. The only issue is finding someone selling 1000 finger for a reasonable price...

cincinnana 08-20-2021 05:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Polypterus (Post 344136)
1000 Finger, Ice Cream, Lady Fingers, and dwarf Namwah all peak my interest, but I think based off the list, I'd be best off trying 1000 Finger, or maybe ice cream. The only issue is finding someone selling 1000 finger for a reasonable price...

Are you growing your plants in your side yard or in a greenhouse ....
Your location limits you.

Polypterus 08-20-2021 05:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cincinnana (Post 344170)
Are you growing your plants in your side yard or in a greenhouse ....
Your location limits you.

Ideally on the south side of the house. Despite being in zone 8a, we rarely see temperatures below 20 degrees. Our low for the last two or three years was 21. I'm hoping to be able to keep it out side for most years with adequate protection, and then take it inside if it gets much colder than that.


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