JoeReal

Tonight would be the 8th night of frosts. This am 12/03/2006, still looking good. this clump is a mix of from left to right: ultra-dwarf saba, rajah puri, dwarf brazilian, California Gold, Manzano, and dwarf orinoco. California Gold seemed to be damaged worst by frosts. Usually the taller they get here, the more frost bites they get.

chong

Way to go, Joe. They look great! You must get a lot of wind there, too, judging from the many split leafpads.

That sure is an "ultra dwarf" Sabá. Looks like it's only a third of what a regular Sabá is from what I can remember. Where is that from? Has it fruited yet?

Chong

mrbungalow

They look nice, taking into account the frosts you've had in northern CA.

Just one question; Isn't Manzano, Apple, Hawaiian Apple, and Brazilian the same cultivar?

Erlend

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JoeReal

It depends upon who you talk to.

You, talkin' to me? (as most bullies says, LOL)
Manzano is the La Tundan variety in the Philippines. Very tart and crunchy when semi-ripe, thus the term Manzano (or Apple) and should be eaten really soft ripe to enjoy these. Light years different than Dwarf Brazilian (Santa Catarina Prata). The Manzano is taller by about 3 ft than the Dwarf Brazilian in my yard. When the Dwarf Brazilian were planted in Hawaii, they grow crazy and as common as Apples in the mainland, and so the term Hawaiian apple. Whoever equated Manzano and Hawaiian apple to be the same cultivar must have been under the influence, just my speculation.

JoeReal

Just come to think of it. Last year, I transferred them from the pots to the ground during the fall season of 2005, and by Valentines, they looked like this:

JoeReal

Chong my saba hasn't even grown that much yet. Acquired from Wilmington Islander in exchange for California Gold, IIRC (if i remember correctly). Based on his experience, this saba fruited at around 5 ft trunk height, a sport mutant from his clump. I hope it maintains it's reputation here in my yard. So far, it has survived 2 winters, one in the pot outside, and 1 in the ground. This will be it's third year winter, and it grows very slow which is a good indication why it is ultra dwarf version of saba. Hopefully next season it will take off, and then the next it would bear fruit. I can wait for this one. If you looked closely at the pic just before this post, the leftmost stick is actually the ultra-dwarf saba, I accidentally hit it with a dolly and broke the pseudostem in half. It was able to pull itself out of that misery this year.

Yes we always had plenty of winds. Sometimes, very dry, extremely dessicating North winds. As the winds descend (Foehn winds) from the Shasta Mountains towards us, Northern California starts to burn during the summer to fall. The same case like in Southern California, and these are their Santa Ana Winds.

Anything that is taller than the Dwarf Brazilian gets shredded, but still able to bear fruits.

Kylie2x

Hey Joe!!!
Great pics... What a beautiful yard you have.....
Kylie

JoeReal

Thanks Kylie2x. Here's links to my other albums:
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=4148728&f=0

BGreen

Very nice Joe,
We have already had a week of high's in the 20's
Everything I have has been in pots for over 45 days now, lol

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BGreen

JoeReal

thanks BGreen!

Very adventurous of you to raise bananas, and that I am amazed at your industriousness!!


Compared to you, we are way hotter than your outside temps. Our lows have been 26 deg F.


Here's our nights when it frosted
Date, high, min deg F
11-10-2006 63 34
11-23-2006 58 34
11-24-2006 58 33
11-25-2006 60 32
11-27-2006 56 34
11-28-2006 55 30
11-29-2006 53 34
11-30-2006 54 26
12-01-2006 61 28
12-02-2006 60 32
12-03-2006 62 31
12-04-2006 64 32

Kylie2x

Thanks!!! Great pics... I really enjoyed the PVC pic..LOL You use PVC for Aeration and I use it for Irrigation..We are on COOP water (sucks) so we catch as much rain water as we can store.. The PVC is buried 2' in the ground and has several holes drilled in it. It allows me to deep water with less water..and I can use the rain water..That is a pecan that grew from seed in the compost pile..