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Cold Hardy Bananas This forum is dedicated to the discussion of bananas that are able to grow and thrive in cold areas. You'll find lots of tips and discussions about keeping your bananas over the winter.


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Old 08-23-2010, 04:31 PM   #41 (permalink)
 
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Is there any update on this nanners? It's been a year now and there might have been some freezing in Slovakia since then :-)
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Old 08-24-2010, 03:59 AM   #42 (permalink)
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The update from the UK would be this; I would rate the Indian hybrids I grow in the following order

1/ Helens Hybrid (lots of Sikkimensis in this one)
2/ Malbhog (grows well in a wet summer)
3/ Chini Champa
4/ Dhusray (slow to return)
5/ Hajaray (needs a fair amount of heat to kick in to growth)

At the end of the day a realistic assessment is that the growing season in Northern Europe (even with overwintering in a frost free (min 8C) polytunnel) is too short to get these to produce fruit. You may just about get flowers but fruit I just can't see it.

I think the way forward is to enjoy the plants for what they are, growing specimens with many different characteristics. Maybe one day I'll get to open a banana sanctuary in the Canary Islands for instance, much as Joachim is doing down in Brazil.
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In my case this would be:
1. Dhusray
2. Hajray
3. Helens
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It's still two weeks untill my Hajaray will arrive, but today I received my Dhusray and Malbhog. Two healthy and small pups.
(along with it came my Basjoo Sapporo)...
We'll see how they do here in my climate!

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"the less sikkimensis inside, the more heat will be needed"

exactly...

Chini Champa and Helens Hybrid both made it through last winter under very heavy (150mm) mulch.

By the way if you're editing the English language version of Joachim's book the photo of mine used says I'm in the USA, however thankfully I'm still in the U.K.
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By the way if you're editing the English language version of Joachim's book the photo of mine used says I'm in the USA, however thankfully I'm still in the U.K.
I'm editing the German version, but I think he'll have translated afterwards. I'll tell Joachim to check the picture credits.

I hope my newly arrived hill bananas will like the heat in the summer. Somewhere I read, that they can stop growing with high temperatures. Maybe, I have to buy a plot on the mountains here to grow them :-)
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Old 09-06-2010, 01:42 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I hope my newly arrived hill bananas will like the heat in the summer. Somewhere I read, that they can stop growing with high temperatures. Maybe, I have to buy a plot on the mountains here to grow them :-)
Keep in mind that the hills bananas of India come from an area where the record low temperature is 7.5 C (45.5 F).
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Keep in mind that the hills bananas of India come from an area where the record low temperature is 7.5 C (45.5 F).
I thought the low temps in that area were below freezing not above! That's what I read...?
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I thought the low temps in that area were below freezing not above! That's what I read...?
For instance Hajaray Hybrid is said to withstand weak frosts... that's what I've read. Cesar from French south grows it too and it fruits there, even though the last winter was one of the worst.
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For instance Hajaray Hybrid is said to withstand weak frosts...
"Frost" is formed by sublimation at temperatures above freezing, typically in the mid to high 30's F (2 to 4 C).

The Himalayan foothills where the hills banana and Chiranjit Parmar are located is in a near tropical latitude. Dr. Parmar, in numerous conversations about plants of the area has told me that the record low temperature there at 1500 meters elevation is 45.5 F (7.5 C). The snow line is much higher, about 2100 meters.
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