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Old 11-30-2013, 08:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Cool Can I get ripe bananas in zone 7 Virginia?

I have very tall Basjoo's which have fruit about 2 inches long. How can I get them to ripen?
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Musa basjoo from what I've seen posted here you can not eat those.
you can get bananas to grow and ripen where you are just not basjoo..
there is Veinte Cohol Banana that is the shortest growing period,other than them you might have to do like everyone else grow them and dig them up when it get freezing and grow inside..

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Your information really helped! Thank you. Not positive I have the type of banana that I stated but 90% sure from looking at photos:-)
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Your information really helped! Thank you. Not positive I have the type of banana that I stated but 90% sure from looking at photos:-)
post a picture of the fruit on the tree, many of the people on here can tell you the kind by looking at the fruit on the tree. I have 106 bananas trees growing and can only tell you you about what kind 40 of them are. The rest I know sure do taste good no matter what kind they are. My son found a lot of them in the woods here where I live. I am surrounded by about 2,000 acres of woods.

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Walmart? That qas a smart ass answer I to would like ro know I also live in zone 7 an I have heard the dwarf qohld be the best considering it can go in container to be brought in
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Walmart? That qas a smart ass answer I to would like ro know I also live in zone 7 an I have heard the dwarf qohld be the best considering it can go in container to be brought in
and it's the truth. You can not get ripe bananas in zone 7
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Well what zone is tn in I've seenmaps that say 6 7a 7b an 8 all for tenneessee I'm confused on thisn what about a dwarf I'd brought in would in jot produce an ripen???
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Well what zone is tn in I've seenmaps that say 6 7a 7b an 8 all for tenneessee I'm confused on thisn what about a dwarf I'd brought in would in jot produce an ripen???
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Well what zone is tn in I've seenmaps that say 6 7a 7b an 8 all for tenneessee I'm confused on thisn what about a dwarf I'd brought in would in jot produce an ripen???
I'm late to this party, but there are some places where you can search your zone by city or zip code. Try that rather than by state. TN is pretty big and varies a lot depending on where you are in the state.

I'm thrilled to be in the part of the state where growing Rhubarb is possible, but it's not the best banana weather. (Because of the mountains, estimates for my area vary from 6b to 7b and it's harder to know for sure.) I got my Orinoco tissue culture starter plant all the way through the winter only to have the poor thing expire in my living room during the last, very light cold snap. (The Truly Tiny shrugged it off, although it's showing a little winter wear and tear.)

If you look above, Kubali suggested Veinte Cohol for short seasons and that's what I'm going to try if I can't resurrect the little tc Orinoco. The bananas from the grocery stores here are pretty bad. I don't know what they do to them, but they are kind of dry and tasteless, which is why I'm not just sticking to the Truly Tiny.
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Aww thank you nerferset for being so know nd and I'm in 7b on the lower eastern end close to memohis tn do you leave your truly tiny outside during winter ?
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Being so nice sorry I'm on my phone and it auto spells things an i have been informed to make things clear when posting ))
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That's why there is an "edit" button.

As for getting ripe bananas in cold zones, it is possible but challenging. You will either need to get dwarf varieties and bring them indoors in the winter, or do some seriously extreme outdoor protection. Bringing in dwarfs is not always easy, dwarf banana plants are still very large when near fruiting height and can be quite heavy, especially in large pots. You could also bring in a large pup from a fast flowering type like veinte cohol, as people have mentioned, but timing is also not an easy task.

IMHO Abnshrek has some of the best examples of pushing varieties outdoors and getting fruit in colder areas. He has some of the best protection methods and results going but he is in a significantly warmer zone than you. That being said, things can always be done "bigger" someway, somehow.

All that being said there are several pics of people with fruits in zones as cold as you or I, you just have to look.

Edit: you can get ripe fruits protecting basjoos out doors, although they are not edible.
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Aww thank you nerferset for being so know nd and I'm in 7b on the lower eastern end close to memohis tn do you leave your truly tiny outside during winter ?
No worries. I'm happy to help. Where you are, you should probably have even warmer weather than I do, but it's hard to say. I know Memphis is out of the zone that can grow rhubarb. No, I didn't leave either banana outside. Our living room has a lot of windows although it is West facing. (West-ish) Both the Truly Tiny and the Orinoco sat side by side with my Key Lime and Manilla Mango trees on a small table where they could make the most of the big picture window.

Where we are, I wouldn't dream of trying to leave a dessert banana outside in the winter. Especially not this winter. We got below zero temps. There is a man on this forum who had a sticky posting a few years back. He lives in Knoxville, which is about an hour North of me, more or less. He had a full photo essay about how he digs up his bananas every winter and stores them dormant under his house. I can't remember his name, but he's sort of my banana hero.

Edit: Hey, the thread is still there. The member who posted the photo essay is BigDog.

Anyway, the Truly Tiny gets it name for a reason. I plan to keep mine potted all its life so I can move it in during the winter months. People further north than we are have seen fruit from theirs, but it takes years when you have cold winter weather. The Truly Tiny is more of a pet banana to me. I'd like it to produce one day, but I'm not going to rush it. It hasn't pupped either, so I don't want it to just fruit and die off.

After my failure with the Dwarf Orinoco, if I can't get it to come back from the corm, I'm changing varieties. Veinte Cohol is supposed to be less cold tolerant, but it makes bananas faster and isn't as tall. (The Truly Tiny is supposed to be less cold tolerant and it survived my living room, so maybe I can make this work? I suspect the Orinoco didn't have enough time to mature enough before winter set in. It also got broken on my front porch, so it had to overcome that. Mine were "starter plants" from Wellspring, so not big, strong pups or anything.)

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Kk hmmm I bought both my dwarf orinioco an musa basjoo feom wellsprings they seem to be doing really good sorry for your loss an I am going to purchase either a little prince or truly tiny soon so I can bring indoors also I also want to try a mekong giant i think they are beautiful even if they don't produce feuit j lve them anyway and just want them in my yard more than anything I love there look ))
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The timeline on the poor Orinoco was like this:

July: Got baby Orinoco from Well Spring
July: Orinoco was chopped in half during the building of the porch swing
August: Orinoco returned to almost the size it was when it arrived
September/October: Growth stopped for the winter
January-February: Severe cold snaps, Orinoco did ok on my living room table
March: Placed Orinoco on the porch while we had 70 degrees, took it in at night.
March: One overnight freeze and some snow, during which Orinoco was back on my living room table.
March: Orinoco said that freeze was too much and he hated watching snow. Orinoco rotted.
March: I said, "Seriously?"

Some of that is interpreted from the original Banana.

:P But no, I don't really know what happened. The Truly Tiny was so close, they were touching pots. If there was a draft, the Truly Tiny ought to have gone first, except that the Orinoco was pretty puny. I figure I'll trade a half a zone cold tolerance for faster growth (especially if it is coming in anyway) and quite possibly some bananas I will want to eat vs what the store has to offer.
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I dont know why the freeze is relevant to the death of your Orinoco if it wss inside. Does it get below freezing in your dining room? Sounds like death by over loving (over watering). Also orinoco is not particularly known as a slow grower, thats just bc of the size of your plant. Also who cares about cold tolerance if u cant leave it outside anyways?
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Overwatering is a no. Nice thought, though. I use a very well drained mix and am very careful not to overwater, especially in winter. The citrus get much the same treatment and a similar mix. The living room where it was is probably the best heated room in the house. It seemed to happen quite suddenly and does seem linked to the cold snap, which is why I said what I did about drafts...yet the Truly Tiny was fine. What I've thought the key was is possibly the size. If you note, the Orinoco never fully recovered after having had an accident and never really took off from it's very infantile size.

I cared about cold tolerance because I had hoped that I would be able to leave it out with protection or store it dormant in the basement when it was an appropriate size. I was never able to get it to an appropriate size. We're talking about a banana that still only about 4 inches tall--including leaves. This winter...all I can say is wow. If we can wind up with winters like this one, I no longer care so much about cold tolerance and just want something I can cart inside.

But the Orinoco is going to have its chance to come back. I'm not 100% convinced it's a goner. It had a huge root system.
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