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Old 01-07-2018, 03:33 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Default Re: Before & after freeze pics Jan 2018. What fared the best?

4 nights of mid 20's. was supposed to be above freezing tonight. its 30 now. smaller plants that did not grow fast last year the p-stems are mushy. a couple of months to go.
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It hit 17 here one night! We had teens down to the gulf! Crazy cold. Worse part was the whole next day it never got out of the high 30s. That’s the bad stuff. Normally it warms up fast here after the sun pops out.

I have everything in ground. Pstems will reset. We will see how corms do. Especially sensitive ones like AEAE, Florida, other AA types and other variegated types.

Maybe it will equal out with above average spring temps!
I’ll give updates how all mine survived. Only a couple were covered. Some had no protection. Smaller corms had hay and most had paper boxes/bags to keep water away from the corms. So most should have been mostly dry.

This was a very good test!
Hope everyone recovers great this spring! Remember keep the corm dry and don’t touch it. Give them plenty time to pup!
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It hit 17 here one night! We had teens down to the gulf! Crazy cold. Worse part was the whole next day it never got out of the high 30s. Thatís the bad stuff. Normally it warms up fast here after the sun pops out.
you are one of the people I know to watch. I know yu are running at least 10 degrees colder than I am in the winter. watched you last year.
you run about the same temps as edwmax. believe eds got his eyes on you to.
you are a great inspiration to this forum and I want to thank yu.
tear in my eye, blow my nose.

I am near the ocean. my temps usually are about the same 60 miles north of tampa. toward the center of florida the temps get much colder.
and my little nanners will be just fine.
I just got to be a man and put my flip flops on and get to work.
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Here is an after freeze photo.....in the bombogenesis zone.
An absolute nuclear winter here.
Note the white fallout and darkened skies.


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Well, my bananas all got burned pretty good last week. Somehow my camer lost the before pics and after pics I took so I had to go take new after pics and there are no before pics, so here goes...
My Brazilian fared the best, followed by the Namwah. No big surprises there... Brazilian is the big mat on the left and the Namwah is the big ones on the right...



The GM on the front left is burned but still has some green which is a surprise, and the FHIA 17 in the far back just doesn't like cold. The frost two weeks ago about did it in. On the right was a surprise for me... PC... It had zero noticeable damage from the frost a couple weeks ago which burnt the 3640 a bit and yellowed GM pretty good but it browned bad this time...



My SH 3640 is a different story... It got burnt pretty good as you can see, but I had the bunch covered and it seems to have made it thru well... I wonder if it will ever finish?...


3640 bunch after...
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Not too bad Steve!
They should all recover fast! Thanks for the update!

Thanks Beam! I’m happy to share any and all info. I’m here to share info and help, not keep secrets. I’m excited to see how everything did. I can say my citrus have lost new growth, but i see no major wood loss like i expected. It’s still early though. And we are forecasted for 25f in a few days!

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Not too bad Steve!
They should all recover fast! Thanks for the update!

Thanks Beam! Iím happy to share any and all info. Iím here to share info and help, not keep secrets. Iím excited to see how everything did. I can say my citrus have lost new growth, but i see no major wood loss like i expected. Itís still early though. And we are forecasted for 25f in a few days!

Good luck guys.
Checked out your photos --- most amazing! I really dig your variegated varieties, particularly the AeAe and the mottled greens. Love that banana with the purple or dark-colored psuedostem.
The "Banana Fish" is terrific!

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It seems I can only post pics from Flickr from an actual computer, ipad and phone don't play well with it I guess.

Anyway, I got back from Mexico expecting a pile of mush. Surprised to see my ice cream and California folks are still standing. Leaves are gone, but the stems are still green and firm.

My weather station recorded a low temp of 21 degrees and periods of about 15 hrs below freezing and high temp was in the low 40s. Luckily ground temp is not am issue here worth a low of 45 measured 2 inches below surface. That's poetically the worst cold I'll ever have to worry about here. God to see that the cali gold and ice cream weather it well!

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after 7 days of 26 to 32 degrees at night it looks like everything is good if it had any size. some of the smaller ones that did not grow fast [2 inch pstem] are soft, at least the ones I did not cover. now we are going to get cold again. low 30s.
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Finally, pics...

20180112_102459 by skrassow, on Flickr
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Here is the batch I dug out, just in case. All ready to move to their new home across town in about 2 weeks. Good to know I don't need to bother digging them out next year (my first winter with bananas)...just trim the dead leaves and wait for new growth.

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I did straighten them up and add soil after this. I am already seeing new growth on all of them, the corms were very large, one buckled the tote it was in without even adding dirt!
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What kind of weather station do you have?
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I use accurite. I have the 5 in 1 station mounted about 8ft high and a ground level temp/humidity sensor with a ground temp probe. It allows you to view historical stats as well, pretty handy.
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Well, my bananas all got burned pretty good last week. Somehow my camer lost the before pics and after pics I took so I had to go take new after pics and there are no before pics, so here goes...
My Brazilian fared the best, followed by the Namwah. No big surprises there... Brazilian is the big mat on the left and the Namwah is the big ones on the right...



The GM on the front left is burned but still has some green which is a surprise, and the FHIA 17 in the far back just doesn't like cold. The frost two weeks ago about did it in. On the right was a surprise for me... PC... It had zero noticeable damage from the frost a couple weeks ago which burnt the 3640 a bit and yellowed GM pretty good but it browned bad this time...



My SH 3640 is a different story... It got burnt pretty good as you can see, but I had the bunch covered and it seems to have made it thru well... I wonder if it will ever finish?...


3640 bunch after...
Wow! You're pretty far south for such a freeze, no? Isn't your area able to grow Coconut palms?

This is a brutal winter for sure in the SE. Well, everywhere east of the West. Here in Denver, we've missed out on most of the brutal cold. It backed in here yesterday, but even so, it wasn't below zero. Back to 50s today, then mid 60s for a couple days. I'm just wondering how many palms have been killed in the south.
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People here had coconut palms until 2010, and big mango trees, too. Just over a half hour south of here there are lots of big mangoes and coconuts, but here they are all pretty small. The only bigger mango I know of in the area was blown down by Matthew...

Now we are facing round 2. It's 71 now but supposed to get down to 32 tonight. Last time they said 31. (I think it got a bit colder than that, though.) It doesn't look good for those bananas to fill in but they are still green and the flower is still opening new bracts so I am covering them again tonight even though the mama plant is pretty much devoid of leaves...
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I'm 1/2 hour south of Daytona and it's 28 right now - OUCH! 20 miles to the west of me, it's colder than Boston (as in Massachusetts). How does this happen? If Al Gore walked up to me right now, I'd kick him in the balls. (and I'm not even a republican)
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Well, we hit 26 here this morning... Not good. Bunch is still covered as 38 predicted tonight. 31 was predicted for last night.
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Wow, I am shocked that it hit 28 in Palm Bay. It was 42 here next to the lake, it's amazing the warming effect it has.
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Well, we hit 26 here this morning... Not good. Bunch is still covered as 38 predicted tonight. 31 was predicted for last night.
That's a serious arctic front! Funny thing is, I just checked national temps and it shows 49 in Palm Bay. But 64 here in Denver. Not that 64 in January is all that uncommon here, but still about 18 above average.
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