4 Basjoos flowering

lwabirds · 08-19-2009, 11:59 AM

I have 4 different basjoos flowering in my yard this years. Plants have been in the ground 4 years. I have saved the stems each year.

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Raules · 08-19-2009, 11:53 PM

Greetings lwabirds! Try to spend pollination of the 4 flowers Basjoo. We will look that will turn out. It is said that Musa basjoo very seldom forms seeds.

Basjoofriend · 08-20-2009, 06:31 AM

Hi,

try to pollinate the basjoos please, to try to produce seeds! If you do have another banana species like sikkimensis, velutina, xishuangbannaensis, itinerans, yunnanensis and others, even fruit bananas, then try to cross the basjoo with them!

We need new hardy banana hybrids, also hardy fruit bananas which are as hardy as basjoo.

Best wishes
Joachim

lwabirds · 08-20-2009, 07:18 AM

I'll do my best. You can see my Musa Sikkimensis in the background. They are not flowering.

Raules · 08-21-2009, 12:42 AM

It would be interesting to observe of pollination process. Update a theme photos of pollination and development of fruit. The photo can be brought in Wiki. When flower Basjoo will be pollinated, fruit will look like more round form, because of presence in them of seeds.

arthurb3 · 08-21-2009, 01:12 PM

Agri-Starts, Inc. - Musa

Mine bloomed for the first time here in Raleigh, NC. It took two seasons of protecting the stems with the large C-9 christmas lights. The bananas are small, about 3 inches and very little pulp. The were green then turned yellow for a day or two then turned brown and fell off. The birds didn't eat them so I assume that the pulp was not very good or not much to them. Three stems have come up to replace the one that has bloomed.

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snc · 09-15-2009, 08:28 AM

noticed this on my basjoo this weekend. pretty excited.....

This is a two y/o plant that had no protection last winter.

planetrj · 09-15-2009, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basjoofriend

Hi,

try to pollinate the basjoos please, to try to produce seeds! If you do have another banana species like sikkimensis, velutina, xishuangbannaensis, itinerans, yunnanensis and others, even fruit bananas, then try to cross the basjoo with them!

We need new hardy banana hybrids, also hardy fruit bananas which are as hardy as basjoo.

Best wishes
Joachim

Joachim,
I've often thought that crossing Velutina with Basjoo would be great, because you'd get a hardy pink banana that looked like a full sized tree, and of course (hopefully) the flower would be just as nice as Velutina. Maybe a cross that would look something like this:

(m. Velutina x (m. Basjoo x m. Velutina) ) x m. Basjoo. I think in that order of nomenclature should result in what I was speaking of, if anyone's interested.

Jack Daw · 09-15-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by planetrj

Joachim,
I've often thought that crossing Velutina with Basjoo would be great, because you'd get a hardy pink banana that looked like a full sized tree, and of course (hopefully) the flower would be just as nice as Velutina. Maybe a cross that would look something like this:

(m. Velutina x (m. Basjoo x m. Velutina) ) x m. Basjoo. I think in that order of nomenclature should result in what I was speaking of, if anyone's interested.

This seems like my programming command. It is interesting that I've never heard, read... about a basjoo x edible cross that would be both edible and hardy. I doubt people haven't tried, where's the hoax then? Why is it possible to try and cross only inedibles? Sikki likes edible varieties for males...

Basjoofriend · 09-15-2009, 05:35 PM

Hi,

it's not simple to cross Musa basjoo with Musa velutina. But now is the Musa basjoo pup from Germany thriving very well here in Brazil and has already several tiny suckers. And I will get 2 pups of Musa velutina tomorrow, and also the importantest cross partners for my basjoo here. I will make trials.

I do remember that anyone has tried to cross one Musa basjoo with velutina. Did fertile seed form?

Seedless edible bananas are mostly triploid and there are also tetraploid seedless bananas like FHIA-18 which I will get tomorrow.

Triploid banana cultivars will form when one diploid is crossed with one tetraploid.

To get one tetraploid, then make it like FHIA in Honduras and Embrapa in Brazil, crosses between diploid and tetraploid.

Best wishes
Joachim

BILL MA · 09-17-2009, 03:57 PM

Iwabirds, Looking good! I want a flower in the worst way, hopefully next year. You said they have been in the ground four years. Have the main stems survived that long or where they replaced by the pups? what zone are you in too?

Thanks,
Bill

snc · 09-22-2009, 08:49 AM

How about lateritas crossed with basjoos? both flowers about ready to open up here. could call it a lateroo

pics from last week. leaving for WV for a few days so should be interesting to see them when i return.

Anyone in Charleston want to have a beer? Will be at the Embassy suites near the capital.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basjoofriend

Hi,

try to pollinate the basjoos please, to try to produce seeds! If you do have another banana species like sikkimensis, velutina, xishuangbannaensis, itinerans, yunnanensis and others, even fruit bananas, then try to cross the basjoo with them!

We need new hardy banana hybrids, also hardy fruit bananas which are as hardy as basjoo.

Best wishes
Joachim

cactus6103 · 09-28-2009, 12:30 PM

Congrats of the flowers. Beautiful.

Red

snc · 09-29-2009, 06:51 AM

progress, pics from phone so not best quality

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