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Old 12-22-2012, 05:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dwarf Cavendish?
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Dwarf Cavendish?
Would be a first that I know of in our area-
My guess is raja puri.
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Pretty cool,is this in your neighborhood or something?
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Cardaba is the best guess so far -- looks like something in the Saba subgroup, and Cardaba fits that bill. The color seems strange in the photo of the ripe bunch. Don't know if that is a camera thing or a real thing.

Definitely not D. Cav or Rajapuri. The fruit are the wrong shape for either of those.
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Cardaba is the best guess so far -- looks like something in the Saba subgroup, and Cardaba fits that bill. The color seems strange in the photo of the ripe bunch. Don't know if that is a camera thing or a real thing.

Definitely not D. Cav or Rajapuri. The fruit are the wrong shape for either of those.
They certainly have a saba shape--and there is access to saba here which have fruited. I think saba have that more rounded bloom. I'm not aware of any cardaba in this area(coastal South Carolina).
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It's a strange one. I don't know of any Saba subgroup varieties that have retained floral relicts on the rachis between the fruits and male bud, which is usually a trait of dwarf varieties.
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Is the ripe bunch really the same bunch. Even though the angles are slightly different, the two bunches don't seem to match. Also, where you look at the peduncle above the fruit in both images, there are differences. I was going to say cardaba, but the last look almost like some popoulu type because the ends seem so rounded, although not quite enough, but too rounded for cardaba.
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Rob, I was thinking the exact same thing as you. The color still seems strange, even if it was a Popoulu, right? But the shape of the ripe bunch seems right on for that.
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could it be hua moa?
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Yeah, Mark, the color is strange on the ripe bunch. Skin on Hua Moa and other popoulu I've seen are more like the yellow of a cavendish, not so orange. Some of the ripe ones seem too ridgey, not quite rounded enough for popoulu. I'd have to say it's really not anything I have seen before, but the green banana pics do seem like a Saba type.
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My close friends have about 100 banana trees on their farm and one of them is something that looks like a dwarf Saba. It's about 9' tall and came from Agristarts.
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It looks to me like 'Balonkawe' aka 'Klue Teparod'.
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Shape-wise, the fruit looks like the Saba I've seen, but the rachis was always bare between the fruit and the bud.


Also, yours looks more orange tinted.

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It looks to me like 'Balonkawe' aka 'Klue Teparod'.
Sounds rare. What are the chances of it finding its way to coastal South Carolina(zone 8b-9a) and producing ripe fruits?
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Sounds rare. What are the chances of it finding its way to coastal South Carolina(zone 8b-9a) and producing ripe fruits?
It's a little unusual but not that rare really, and I have seen it in South Florida at Going Bananas Nursery. It was thought for a long time to be one of the only naturally occurring tetraploids, but if I remember correctly it has been confirmed a triploid. It is possible this plant has also erroneously been sold under the name 'Cardaba' by some nurseries.
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See if this description matches at all. It is known for switching between having no male-axis at all, and other times having one like in your photo or even a multiple branched rachis. I have seen plants of both forms but can't seem to find my photos right now.


No male bud present; compound tepal of female flowers purplish; lamina base similar to M. Balbisiana.
Tetraploid, 5.3 meters, sturdy, horizontal leaves, medium green plant, very little black blotching, no red on suckers, petiole margins yellow, green candle, no blotching on water- suckers, undersheath yellowish-green with faint pink flush; petiole medium, canal closed, margins not papery, petiole base not enclosing large area of stem; heavily waxy, free suckering; penduncle long, thick, smooth; bunch semi-pendulous, open-handed, 4 hands, 10 fingers each; fruits large, waxy, medium length but very thick, angular, very poorly curved, almost horizontal; pedicel long, thick; nipple, blunt tipped, stylar spur persist; usually bud aborts after producing last female hand, when present rachis pendulous, with many neuter hands, bract scars not prominent; male bud large, elongate, high shoulder, acuminate tip, imbricate, not corrugated, strongly waxy; bracts not recurving dull reddish purple, inner surface bright crimson; male flowers flushed pink; ovules in 4 irregular rows.
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