Tissue Culture plants

kcj1219 · 08-08-2011, 03:59 PM

Does anyone have good pictures of really young tissue culture Williams, goldfinger or gran nain? Like around a foot tall. I would love to see them.

Thanks!!

john_ny · 08-09-2011, 10:39 AM

Gran Nain

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trebor · 08-09-2011, 03:07 PM

Gran Naim on the left the day I received them (about a month ago)

I know you didn't ask but this is about 3 weeks growth of the FHIA - 17
I recieved 4 plants two I kept in pots.They are growing really well

the ones I stuck in the ground are just now starting to look like they are taking off . Hope that helps in answering you question..

kcj1219 · 08-09-2011, 04:17 PM

I'm still trying to figure out what kind of plants these are. I was guessing maybe a gran nain because of the blotches or maybe a FHIA plant because the petioles seem kind of long. How does my pics compare to your FHIA plant trebor? It looks similar to my plants.

Here they are!

ArchAngeL01 · 08-09-2011, 11:16 PM

They look like my Gran nains

trebor · 08-10-2011, 10:12 AM

kcj1219

They look pretty close don't they

But I think they are different , looking at the leaves structure .. Believe me I don't know and I looked at my Gran Nain in the ground but its just now shaping up from transplant . It needs a few weeks to really look like anything .. It been hot and windy with lots of rain here . Things are growing ok but all the pups are beaten up by the wind.
If I remember correctly there is a pretty big gap between adult mature plant height between the two plants . Gran Nain 8 feet / Musa FHIA-17 15 feet..So it is helpful to have accurate info when planing ..
I like the tall plants. I can look out my back door see nice tall Musa ..

kcj1219 · 08-14-2011, 07:57 PM

I've come to the conclusion that my plants are Gran Nains. I've looked at many pics and compared them to my DCs. The p-stems are getting red. The blotching on the leaves are not as heavy as DC and the petioles are longer.

I'm convinced they are Gran Nains.

Gabe15 · 08-14-2011, 08:16 PM

On young TC plants like those, the traits you observe are not very reliable. They are very prone to change depending on the environment. The red coloration on the leaves is especially misleading as it will be present on some varieties as young TC plants, but normally not there at all. When they get a little bigger, you will likely be able to confirm if they are Cavendish, but to say they are 'Gran Nain' at this stage is not reliable.

trebor · 08-14-2011, 08:19 PM

Well Allrighty then

I hope they grow well for you and you can see a bloom a month before you expect one ...

kcj1219 · 08-14-2011, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabe15

On young TC plants like those, the traits you observe are not very reliable. They are very prone to change depending on the environment. The red coloration on the leaves is especially misleading as it will be present on some varieties as young TC plants, but normally not there at all. When they get a little bigger, you will likely be able to confirm if they are Cavendish, but to say they are 'Gran Nain' at this stage is not reliable.

Hi Gabe. I totally agree with you on that. I guess the reason why I'm assuming they are Gran Nain is because I ordered Cal Gold (which I now know you can't get from a nursery) and received these. I decided to keep them and went through their nursery banana plant list of what they could be with the blotches and other characteristics they now have. Unless of course he's sending out plants that are totally wrong and not on his inventory at all.

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