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MSmith 01-05-2013 07:41 PM

thought I had D Brazilian
 
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GreenFin 01-05-2013 09:45 PM

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Looks like a fantastic bunch of goldfinger, imo. Beautiful :)

venturabananas 01-06-2013 01:05 PM

Re: thought I had D Brazilian
 
Show us a picture of the inflorescence and the plant itself.

The fruit don't have the bottle nose that is characteristic of Dwarf Brazilian / Brazilian, but I've noticed that sometimes they don't. I don't know why.

What do they taste like? Have you had Dwarf Brazilian fruit before?

MSmith 01-06-2013 10:41 PM

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MSmith 01-06-2013 10:45 PM

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Comparing them to supermarket cavendish, they are sweeter and have a softer texture. I have had the dwarf brazilian while in Hawaii, but I cant tell if these that I have are the same in taste. I would need to try them both at the same time.

venturabananas 01-07-2013 12:25 PM

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It does seem like Dwarf Brazilian and Goldfinger are the two most likely possibilities, especially given that you got both from Tony. They are pretty similar looking plants, but it should be easy to distinguish the two based on what the inflorescence looked like. Goldfinger has a mostly "clean" rachis below the fingers, whereas Dwarf Brazilian has a "messy" rachis with retained bracts and male flowers. Check out the photos below. What did yours look like? Goldfinger also has proportionally longer and more droopy leaves with longer petioles. I wouldn't put too much stock in how soft or firm the fruit was -- that changes a lot with stage of ripeness -- but on average, DB is a bit more firm than a Cavendish, whereas Goldfinger is more similar to a supermarket Cavendish.

Goldfinger:


Dwarf Brazilian:

sunfish 01-07-2013 02:11 PM

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http://www.bananas.org/f2/help-my-d-...tml#post203202

venturabananas 01-07-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 212728)

Well, looks like it is Dwarf Brazilian after all. Strange that the fruits have no real bottle nose, but that is a trait that varies with climate. I knew Tony wouldn't steer you wrong! :08:

MSmith 01-07-2013 05:57 PM

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Tony is the banana man :nanadrink:

sunfish 01-07-2013 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MSmith (Post 212734)
Tony is the banana man :nanadrink:

No mas

momoese 01-07-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 212735)
No mas

Huh? No more bananas?

Julian 01-08-2013 02:16 AM

Re: thought I had D Brazilian
 
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Originally Posted by venturabananas (Post 212729)
Well, looks like it is Dwarf Brazilian after all. Strange that the fruits have no real bottle nose, but that is a trait that varies with climate. I knew Tony wouldn't steer you wrong! :08:

Amazing to think. The fruit does not look like DB at all. :2738:

venturabananas 01-08-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 212760)
Amazing to think. The fruit does not look like DB at all. :2738:

It is remarkable how variable some traits are, especially as affected by climate and nutrition. Climate, for example, seems to strongly affect flower color and fruit size and shape. So much so that some of the keys to varieties in the Kepler and Rust book don't work when applied in my cool environment.

wolfyhound 01-08-2013 05:26 PM

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Wow those are awesome pictures. And a lot of bananas!

Julian 01-08-2013 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by venturabananas (Post 212772)
It is remarkable how variable some traits are, especially as affected by climate and nutrition. Climate, for example, seems to strongly affect flower color and fruit size and shape. So much so that some of the keys to varieties in the Kepler and Rust book don't work when applied in my cool environment.


With the fruit being affected that much from a physical stand point, I wonder how much different it is as far as taste. "Look like fish, taste like chicken?"

venturabananas 01-08-2013 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 212787)
With the fruit being affected that much from a physical stand point, I wonder how much different it is as far as taste. "Look like fish, taste like chicken?"

I'm sure climate affects taste somewhat. To me, Dwarf Brazilian / Brazilian ("Hawaiian Apple") in Hawaii taste a bit more earthy and a bit less tart than those grown in my cooler climate. But you can tell they are the same thing, just slightly different in flavor.


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