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Without the correct identification which requires a bloom/ flower on the banana plant your buying from. You need to see the flower/bloom and know what plants you are buying.
If you can not do that, you risk falling victim to the Musa Bassjo Craze. Sellers sell you whatever for more money cashing in the premium price Musa Basjoo brings. :kiteflyingnanergif: |
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They are all still M. basjoo
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the musa basjoo foliage, there are some subtle differences in petioles, leaf color, etc. but those can be difficult to confirm. The foliage also tends to be a little lighter green than most other bananas, but so many variables (light exposure, nutrition, etc.) can impact the reliability of that. You can find answers to questions you may have about banana plants or agriculture from experts. https://ask.extension.org/ask |
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You can ask general plant or agriculture experts that likely do not know much or anything about bananas, or you can ask and believe the experts here. |
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Go easy on him, sir... He doesn't know your fine qualities of banana identification.
I can vouch for Gabe seeing right away that my "Manzano" was not a Manzano, but he said it is Brazilian, which when I searched characteristics for that variety, seems to match. I have a pup flowering again now, and am posting pics on the "what's blooming" thread. In a week or so, I hope you check again for a double sure. (It is definitely not Manzano as I know what they taste like) That said, I am curious of how you became the resident banana expert here.. College or just lots of experience or just lurking here for over a decade? |
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:ropingnaner: I will post more pictures of the plants as they grow more foliage and post them here but government officials have said the only reliable way to identify banana species is by examining the inflorescence (bloom)
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Dude, I don't know what govt workers you are relying on, but unless they are planning on doing dna testing on your bananas, I would listen to Gabe. To be certain you receive what you order, on here is where you should buy plants. See my signature to see what I mean. I have bought several bananas from "reputable" suppliers, and most were wrong.
Gabe took one look at my avatar and told me it's not a Manzano(Which is what I ordered) but a Brazilian. To be honest, I wasn't sure I believed him, either, being new here but when ripe, I ate one... Brazilian is what they tasted like. I don't know where he learned to id bananas, but I think he's pretty good at it. Maybe he is like me, once I watch a plant grow, I can tell them apart by even the most subtle of characteristics. That is why I find it frustrating when I get the wrong plants. I need to know what I have. |
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"confirmed that the only reliable way to identify banana species is by examining the inflorescence (bloom). In terms of the musa basjoo foliage, there are some subtle differences in petioles, leaf color, etc. but those can be difficult to confirm. The foliage also tends to be a little lighter green than most other bananas, but so many variables (light exposure, nutrition, etc.) can impact the reliability of that measure. The bloom of the musa basjoo is distinctive because it is one of just a handful of bananas that have yellow bracts. There is sometimes some purple stripping on the outside of the bracts but the underside is almost always a nice light yellow. So, it sounds like you will have to wait for flowering before you can accurately identify what banana species you have purchased. This can take a year to occur." - undisclosed government official on bananas. Will post the name if I get permission to do so. Now that being said I have got banana plants from 3 different sellers and they are growing leaves some that look different than others. When they get some new growth I will take pictures and post them. The left chair bananas look much different than the right chair bananas. These are the chair bananas The chair bananas have some rot issues and lost lots the leaves that were in the original photos. Those photos were the day I go them. I removed the rot carefully by cutting it off the plant. They did not take the shipping experience very well. They do not look as good as in the pictures but hopefully they get better. I am thinking they need a shade from the sun some. The chair banana stem seems to have a somewhat of a oval type shape that may not the same as the right chair bananas. Will be observing this as time goes on to see if they are different or not. The right chair bananas have a different color redish hue the chair bananas do not at the base and this is visible in the photos. / Will be observing this. The pictures of the flower indicate the chair bananas may be from a Musa Basjoo assuming the image of the flower came from these bananas. I have yet to get the flower in that photo confirmed as Musa Basjoo and will post it if that is allowed for me to do- I will find out. Chair bananas was a Ebay purchase so who knows what I really have for sure with the Musa Basjoo Craze :goteam: but it is likely they are genuine. and these are the left and right chair bananas from the original picture in the thread. The left chair bananas look much different than the chair and right chair bananas. So far not able to confirm or get any confirmation from the seller with pictures of the flower that the right chair bananas are Musa Basjoo but working to get that. :2725: No conformation of the left chair bananas either. :2725: :2723: The bananas are growing new leaves. When those leaves come all the way out then I will post new pictures and we can evaluate those. Like to have some full leaves that are not cut or damaged from shipping or damaged in any way. May take 2 weeks to get some good pictures. Some of them are growing better than others. Will have to wait and see. :2738: |
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https://sites.google.com/a/cgxchange...visorary-group I got to the level I am at by reading endlessly about bananas for many years, working at banana research field collections, growing hundreds of different varieties, observing and documenting many thousands of banana plants of many hundreds of varieties in many different areas of the banana growing world, and studying with veteran professionals in the banana research community. Quote:
I'm only able to use my phone, and so I'm not able to show any example photos of how to easily ID M. basjoo right now, but perhaps when that's back up and running I'll find some time to share some. |
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(Darth Vader's voice) Impressive, most impressive.
Good to know. You guys wouldn't happen to have an archive with photos of both young and flowering musa complete with differentiating characteristics pointed out for each variety would you? |
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It exists, but it's far from complete and very much a work in progress.
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Gabe, if you have time and can, any ideas on what this might be? I don't see many with the purple Pstem, so I am hoping you have a clue... Thanks.
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