HMelendez

Steve,


Congrats my friend!....Finally, it's flowering!....It's normal for SH-3640 to lean!....Last year, I harvested a SH-3640 High Noon MASSIVE bunch!...SH-3640 fingers were in the plantain size league!.....Huge 'Nana fingers!....The SH-3640 plant was holding the bunch without any problems, any prop or brace!....

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For this specimen, the pseudo-stem height at budding is about 4’ 10".

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crazy banana

Interesting. Thanks for posting.
Out of curiosity I have just measured mine (the mat your plant originated from). It has a fruit bunch developing at 8'. The mat next to it has one plant I was hoping to get an inflorescence this summer, but it is already 8.5' tall and not even a flag leaf yet.

Richard

I remember being at your house the first time yours fruited. It seems to me it was about 4.5' ... or was that something else?

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HMelendez

Richard, crazy banana;



The last three blooming SH-3640 High Noon ‘Nana plants that I lost during Hurricane Irma, they were approx. 10 ft. tall!....Currently, most of my six SH-3640 are approx. 8 ft. tall and they still growing!....

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crazy banana

Must have been something else. The SH 3640 grows down by the street, so anything flowering below 6' or 7' would never end up in our kitchen. People would just help themselves

Richard

Yes, I remember it growing inside the fence next to the sidewalk. You had receive the pup earlier that year and were surprised it was blooming so soon. I also remember your concern with fruit theft.

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sputinc7

I will have to measure mine. I forgot to do that. I am six feet tall and cannot reach the bud with my fingers. I would guess around 8 ft or so. Unfortunately I noticed yesterday it looks like the stinking nematodes may have found the 3640... The pups are all showing signs of the "Umbrella effect" I was hoping it was just very resistant. I did, however put some of the Mykos on them today. I hope it is helpful.

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Varieties I supposedly bought: Manzano, Cavendish, Blue Java, Sweetheart, and Gros Michel.
What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

Mark Dragt

I am also growing the SH-3640 and should be the same as Hector's plant. It will be interesting to see at what height my plant fruits with my completely different growing conditions.

Richard- your plant flowering at such a short height must be a freak anomaly for what ever reason. Now if your Rattoon blooms and fruits at that short height people will want to know how you did it. I hope your bunch turns out great!

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Richard

For readers who have recently joined this thread, I recommend starting at the beginning for context.

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Akula

I don't know what you have but it looks to me like you have something completely different than the other guys who have 3640 based on the photos and information provided.

Richard

Here's the infant fruit. The fresh female flowers are completely beige.

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Tytaylor77

Congrats Richard! I’ve never seen female end flowers that color. Very cool. Could be environmental but still looks awesome. Now I’m excited to hear the taste report. SH3640 clone that i have taste almost exactly like Agristarts FHIA-1 Goldfinger to me (and others i know) Both amazing tasting bananas! Both in my top 5 and incredible growers! Please keep us updated!

I’m pretty sure i can get you a few fingers off our clone to taste/compare. Let me know if your interested. Free of course.

Seems like a smaller than normal plant! Mutations are happening all over this year! Could it have mutated into a super dwarf? I’m not an expert though!!

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Richard

Neither have I.
We've been experiencing summer weather this week due to "Santa Ana" conditions, so I believe the blossoms are natural color.

In days of yore, the expert banana ID'ers on this site used male & female flower colors along with rib coloration and leaf proportions to nail down the Musa group and sometimes the cultivar of a specimen.

Pretty soon we'll know what it isn't, and possibly what it is.

Yes, although I've seen this occur a few times times before in a first-year pup. The real height will be established in follow-on generations.

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sputinc7

Here is mine yesterday afternoon, Saturday... About 8 feet, BTW...



It has been a chilly fall here so far. I remember two years ago we were in the pool until the end of Jan, and that was without a solar cover or heater, which I have now and still can't get into my 72 degree pool... Much cooler. I hope it warms up, we don't need any freezing this winter...
I would call those little flowers grayish as well... odd.

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Varieties I supposedly bought: Manzano, Cavendish, Blue Java, Sweetheart, and Gros Michel.
What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

Richard

Male flowers.

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meizzwang

Any updates on your plant Richard? Interested to see how the fingers are developing on this particular clone.

Richard

The fingers died during the unusual long cool spring. I'm now nurturing along a few pups.

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sputinc7

We had 2 freezes down to 26 last winter about a month after mine flowered and it lost all the leaves... I covered the bunch, though and it filled in most the way and they were pretty good. The bottom 2 hands had a core and were kinda small but the top 3 were bigger but smaller than usual but good.

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Varieties I supposedly bought: Manzano, Cavendish, Blue Java, Sweetheart, and Gros Michel.
What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.