Seeking for help to ID this dwarf variety

crazy banana · 11-09-2014, 07:02 PM

I have received this dwarf variety from a fellow "CA Rare Fruit Grower" member who did not remember the ID. I am suspecting Dwarf Brazilian or Raja Puri, but would rather get some input here. Thank you.

Photo of the entire plant/mat:
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Photo of the petiole (red outlined):
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Photo of the inflorescence:
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Photo of the flowers:
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Photos of the first banana fruits:
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Fruit bunch photo from Nov 9 2014 (first hand appeared on Aug 24 2014):

venturabananas · 11-10-2014, 01:27 AM

Yes, I would agree that it is likely one of those two. Narrowing it down to just one of those two is hard, because they are very similar. Your photos don't show anything that would clearly distinguish them. The size of the bud when it first emerges is noticeably larger on Rajapuri, to the point where I'm always astonished at how large it is for such a short plant. If you didn't have that reaction, then it is probably Dwarf Brazilian. Also, at least in my yard, Rajapuri is very short, 7' or less. DB can be small in the "plant crop" cycle (e.g., 6') but tends to be more in the 8-9' range after that.

crazy banana · 11-10-2014, 02:15 AM

Banana Gallery - Dwarf Brazilian?

Posting from my tablet that does not allow me to copy and paste the photo directly.
Thank you very much venturabananas. It is the first time that this mat is fruiting for me, so future bunches and fruiting height will probably lead to better conclusions .�� I was embarrassed to post the additional photo of the inflorescence because it was quite small at the beginning, but now has 100+ edible sized bananas, so I guess it could definitely be another indicator for Dwarf Brazilian.

venturabananas · 11-10-2014, 11:23 AM

Yes, I agree that the evidence points towards Dwarf Brazilian. Rajapuri also tends to have less tightly packed and less evenly aligned fingers, but that isn't a trait that is always obvious to me.

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11-10-2014, 01:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
venturabananas venturabananas's Photo Gallery Location: Ventura, CA Find me on the map! Zone: 10 Name: Mark Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,845 BananaBucks : 238,846 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 1,752 Times Was Thanked 3,968 Times in 1,713 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 39 Times	Re: Seeking for help to ID this dwarf variety Yes, I would agree that it is likely one of those two. Narrowing it down to just one of those two is hard, because they are very similar. Your photos don't show anything that would clearly distinguish them. The size of the bud when it first emerges is noticeably larger on Rajapuri, to the point where I'm always astonished at how large it is for such a short plant. If you didn't have that reaction, then it is probably Dwarf Brazilian. Also, at least in my yard, Rajapuri is very short, 7' or less. DB can be small in the "plant crop" cycle (e.g., 6') but tends to be more in the 8-9' range after that. __________________

11-10-2014, 02:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
crazy banana Location: San Diego Find me on the map! Zone: 9-11 Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,641 BananaBucks : 10,029 Feedback: 73 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,021 Times Was Thanked 2,961 Times in 1,115 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,969 Times	Re: Seeking for help to ID this dwarf variety Banana Gallery - Dwarf Brazilian? Posting from my tablet that does not allow me to copy and paste the photo directly. Thank you very much venturabananas. It is the first time that this mat is fruiting for me, so future bunches and fruiting height will probably lead to better conclusions .�� I was embarrassed to post the additional photo of the inflorescence because it was quite small at the beginning, but now has 100+ edible sized bananas, so I guess it could definitely be another indicator for Dwarf Brazilian. Last edited by crazy banana : 11-10-2014 at 02:24 AM.

11-10-2014, 11:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
venturabananas venturabananas's Photo Gallery Location: Ventura, CA Find me on the map! Zone: 10 Name: Mark Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,845 BananaBucks : 238,846 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 1,752 Times Was Thanked 3,968 Times in 1,713 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 39 Times	Re: Seeking for help to ID this dwarf variety Yes, I agree that the evidence points towards Dwarf Brazilian. Rajapuri also tends to have less tightly packed and less evenly aligned fingers, but that isn't a trait that is always obvious to me. __________________

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