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Old 07-30-2008, 04:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I can't believe I only joined up here in May 2007. I would have guessed it was a year earlier than that. When you get old time just flies, I guess!

As I reported back at Hello from Isleton, California I had some tags which were "lost" for two plants. Both plants were TC plants purchased from Wellspring, one a Rajapuri and the other an Ice Cream. One died in the January 2007 freeze but the other came back from the corm. And that one is now flowering! Okay, not much to go on yet as just the tip of the flower is showing. I just noticed the flag leaf two days ago. I'll post more as it comes along.



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Old 07-30-2008, 04:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Rajapuri or Ice Cream

Rajapuri dosint look like any of my Ice creams to yellow ribing on the leafs is to pronoced for IC alsow the leafs ungalat alot more them my IC
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Old 07-31-2008, 12:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Harvey,

How tall is your plant? Everything I've read states that RP stays fairly short.
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Old 07-31-2008, 02:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi Brent, I thought I had posted that info but I guess at my advancing age things don't always get written down before the thought vanishes!

The pseudostem is about 6 to 6.5 feet. Thanks for making that point which I had forgot to consider.
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Old 08-20-2008, 04:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Here is an updated photo taken today. I have about 75 fingers and the last two hands have had some male flowers (with the last hand being mostly male flowers), so I think that's it. I measured it and the bloom is at 6'9". Does it look like Raja Puri?

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Wish I could help you, but mine is still a corm.
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It seems to me Ice Cream.
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Old 08-20-2008, 11:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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It seems to me Ice Cream.
Thanks Raules. Based on the wiki information, it seems to be too short for Ice Cream.

Musa Rajapuri - Bananas Wiki says the Raja Puri is small at 6 to 8 feet tall.

Musa Ice Cream (Blue Java - Bananas Wiki) says it is up to 15 feet tall.

Mine flowered at 6' 9".

It's too early to tell what the fruit will look like when mature.

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Default Re: Rajapuri or Ice Cream

My RP is still very small, so I couldn't render a solid opinion one way or the other. But, it sure looks great, whatever it is!!!!
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What did it look like when it was small? Did it have any red speckles?
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Default Re: Rajapuri or Ice Cream

My 'Ice Cream' has pink on the edges of the petioles, while my 'Raja Puri' shows no coloration (other than green, of course) in this area. Maybe it is a RP. I think Jarred grows them both. Maybe he can offer an opinion. I also think I remember seeing a recent photo by Jarred of his RP with what looked to be persistant male flowers on the bud. Your photo above looks like the plant is still in the process of setting fruit so maybe in a few more days if the male flowers continue to hang on rather than fall this may be another indication of it's identity as well.
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Here is the photo I was thinking of.

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My raja had red speckles on the leaves when it was young but they have all gone away now.
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Same here- red blotches on the young leaves of Raja Puri. None on Ice Cream.
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I just double-checked. The petioles don't have pink edges and the young pups which are part of this mat don't have even the tiniest hint of red spots.

This TC plant bought from Wellspring on eBay. I also bought Ice Cream at the time and also two Dwarf Orinoco. I did not lose labels on my Dwarf Orinoco but they seem too tall. I have several over 10' tall and one is just starting to bloom at 11'.

Maybe the plant in question is Dwarf Orinoco and they shipped me two Ice Cream (even though pink edges are absent, I've had one Ae Ae with pink edges on the leaves but two Ae Ae with no pink edges).

Frustrating!
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Harvey- I double-checked my RP when I got home from work yesterday and it does have a very thin line of pink along the very edge of the petioles afterall. However, it's nowhere near as noticable as it is on my Ice Cream. Don't really know if this will help or not but I thought I'd pass it on.
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Old 08-24-2008, 09:39 AM   #17 (permalink)
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The bud looks more "droopy" than Raja Puri, the crown does not step as tightly as Raja Puri.
The female flowers are reminiscent of Orinoco or Ice Cream in my opinion, but a closeup would help.
These are a photo of RajaPuri male flowers that I took, it will help you compare yours:

Click it a couple times to blow it up larger.

And in this pic of RajaPuri, I think I recall removing some of the male flowers on the raceme where they are missing:
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Here are some updated photos I took today. It seems that it could be Raja Puri still, the male flowers seem similar to yours, Jarred.

I'm not sure what you mean regarding the droopy flower, but my climate is a lot less humid than yours so that probably causes some differences in appearances.

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The flower has some resemblance to RP, but the plants style (how the leaves spread from the trunk sure doesn't look like mine.
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Thanks, Jon. I'll have to wait to see what the fruit tastes like, I guess.
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