asacomm

The banana plant is supposed to be Pisang Awak, while it was also said that
untill the fruits are presented, it was not easy to identify.

Now, the followings are the young and ripe fruits of this banana.
Please identify again if this is that species or anything other.

novisyatria

yes i think its pisang awak. commonly growth in indonesia. its taste a bit source.

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Gabe15

yep, looks right.

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asacomm

The following photo shows how the cutting of the so called Pisang Awak
in round slices look like.
The numbers of the sets of chromosomes look like two, that means
diploid, while that of Pisang Awak is supposed to be triploid of ABB.
Then this banana could not be considered to be Namwah-Pisang Awak.
Am I wrong?

Gabe15

I don't know what you are looking at to determine its ploidy, but there is no way to tell the number of chromosomes by just cutting the fruit. Ploidy refers to the numer of sets of chromosomes in the nuclei of the cells which can only be determined by using a microscope, squashing and staining the cells then counting out the chromosomes physically (the old way, not so common anymore), or by using advanced lab techniques. The most common way to determine the ploidy of bananas these days is by flow cytometry. Your plant is 'Pisang Awak'.

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asacomm

Many thanks Gabe,

I do realize that I was totally wrong. I do understood what you wrote.
Thanks again.

asacomm

P.S.
I just wanted to mention that the picture showed that the ovules seemed
to be 2 lines in each section, and I have read that this is a typical
characteristic of acuminata diploid. This was the reason why I doubted
this species to be other than Namwah which is triploid ABB.
On the other hand, however, I have also read that this should be tested
with young fruits which show typical charcteristic of ovules.
The picture was taken with a ripe fruit. That might be wrong.

Gabe15

This is true, but many other species also have 2 rows of ovules per locule. 'Namwah' is 1/3 acuminata so some traits from wild acuminata still persist. 'Namwah' is also not a species (it is a cultivar) so traits that relate to wild species are not applicable, it is composed of genetic material originally from both M. acuminata and M. balbisiana but is neither and has many of its own mutations which show traits not present in either wild species.

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