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Backyard Banana Joe 10-07-2019 11:36 AM

Nieghbors mystery banana
 
The plant is 6 feet tall, 6 hands so far.(I think the total is 6) has some black markings on p-stem. any id?

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planetrj 10-07-2019 08:26 PM

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To me, looks as it could be a Williams type. Good sturdy plant, and has nice oversized foliage. It can get up to 10' or so at the crown. I love this one for it's dense neutral flavor fruit for making smoothies and great shade provider, but not even close to my favorite out of hand type. It's highly resistant to disease, at least.

Backyard Banana Joe 10-12-2019 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by planetrj (Post 327155)
To me, looks as it could be a Williams type. Good sturdy plant, and has nice oversized foliage. It can get up to 10' or so at the crown. I love this one for it's dense neutral flavor fruit for making smoothies and great shade provider, but not even close to my favorite out of hand type. It's highly resistant to disease, at least.

Not DB or RP?

Gabe15 10-12-2019 04:59 PM

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Its not Williams. Looks to be either Dwarf Brazilian or Raja Puri, leave male bud attached as it progresses for more precise ID.

Backyard Banana Joe 10-12-2019 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabe15 (Post 327237)
Its not Williams. Looks to be either Dwarf Brazilian or Raja Puri, leave male bud attached as it progresses for more precise ID.

‘tanks!!! Will keep you updated!!!!

planetrj 10-12-2019 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabe15 (Post 327237)
Its not Williams. Looks to be either Dwarf Brazilian or Raja Puri, leave male bud attached as it progresses for more precise ID.

Definitely not in the class of Dwf Brazilian, as the petioles are too light in color. It's even too light to be a 'Iholene class. As for Raja Puri, the leaf structure is close (Fat and square-ish), but the petioles are too lanky, too long, and too far set apart. Rajapuri is quite stout, and the trunk is very fat and short.
Though it may not be exactly "Williams" per se, it may be of the Williams Cavendish class, because the hands appear that way, and the keiki looks a lot like how an established mat will grow (tight in). I grow all of the above, and it's definitely showing Cavendish type characteristics. The black at the base of the petiole is very characteristic in an adult Williams. That being said, it could be one of the many phenotypes. After all, Williams was named after William Cavendish, Duke of Devonshire. :D

Hamakua 10-12-2019 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by planetrj (Post 327239)
Definitely not in the class of Dwf Brazilian, as the petioles are too light in color. It's even too light to be a 'Iholene class. As for Raja Puri, the leaf structure is close (Fat and square-ish), but the petioles are too lanky, too long, and too far set apart. Rajapuri is quite stout, and the trunk is very fat and short.
Though it may not be exactly "Williams" per se, it may be of the Williams Cavendish class, because the hands appear that way, and the keiki looks a lot like how an established mat will grow (tight in). I grow all of the above, and it's definitely showing Cavendish type characteristics. The black at the base of the petiole is very characteristic in an adult Williams. That being said, it could be one of the many phenotypes. After all, Williams was named after William Cavendish, Duke of Devonshire. :D

Not any type of Cavendish with those flowers

Gabe15 10-15-2019 02:21 PM

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The plant shown has a horizontal bunch with tightly spaced hands, even though its young, you can see the position of the peduncle is horizontal (a trait that rarely changes with maturity), and the male bud has turned downwards which is classic for Pome subgroup bananas (of which Dwarf Brazilian and Raja Puri are members).

You can also see a pink-red flush on the compound tepals, and large pink free tepals, both common to Dwarf Brazilian and Raja Puri.

Cavendish cultivars have white flowers with no pink hues anywhere, and (except for some of the extra dwarf mutants), vertically falling pendant bunches which start out that way.

Black markings on the petiole bases are common to both Pome and Cavendish bananas, and relatively wide leaves are common to basically all dwarfs.

Dwarf Brazilian and Raja Puri are extremely closely related, grown in the same environment Raja Puri tends to be shorter and stockier, but in isolation and depending on conditions they can be nearly identical until flowering, and then only a few small detailed traits of the floral can separate them in my experience.

Backyard Banana Joe 11-06-2019 07:27 PM

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Backyard Banana Joe 11-06-2019 07:30 PM

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Backyard Banana Joe 11-06-2019 07:45 PM

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Sorry about the small pics......... I am using postimage and can’t figure out how to make the pics bigger. There is a thing that has different sizes like 800/600 (15 inch moniter) but whichever one I hit, the pic size is the same. Any suggestions?






As you can see, the banana plant is beginning a dirty rachis. I noticed that the leaves have a slight pink in the um, (not sure of a banana plants parts so please have patience) below the leaf on the stem (not the trunk) on the top of the stem there is a little pink streak running the length of the stem to the leaf. Kind of like on a sweetheart. (I think) thanks for looking! :nanadrink::nanadrink:

Backyard Banana Joe 04-07-2020 01:46 PM

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Well it seems the neighbors mystery banana bunch has started to ripen. The male bud was cut but looked like any dirty rachis. My guess? Raja puri. What do ya think?











Backyard Banana Joe 06-29-2020 03:55 PM

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It seems this stand is blooming again. Bigger plant will more than likely mean bigger bunch.







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