Need help identifying two bananas please

dchapman · 07-09-2013, 10:31 AM

Greetings friends!

About 20 months ago I ordered some tissue cultured bananas from a mail order nursery. I purchased Musa Apple Bananas and Zan Moreno Bananas. Now that the bananas are fruiting, I suspect I received neither and would love an ID if possible.

Mystery Banana 1.

This was supposedly the Musa Apple Banana. However, the high starch content of the fruit and the shape makes me think it's more of a cooking banana. The cubans around here purchase them from me as a cooking banana. It is about 6 feet tall not counting the leaves, survived 34 degree weather no problem, and the fruit are about 6 inches long with a high starch content.

Mystery Banana 2.

This was supposedly a Zan Moreno Banana. I really can't tell the difference between it and the first Mystery Banana and for all I know, they're the same. All the other details are the same.

Your assistance is greatly appreciated!

Dalmatiansoap · 07-09-2013, 10:47 AM

Seem like Dwarf Orinoco

caliboy1994 · 07-09-2013, 12:16 PM

Yeah, Dwarf Orinoco.

mushtaq86 · 07-09-2013, 03:50 PM

dwarf orinoco

verndoc50 · 07-09-2013, 04:23 PM

Orinoco. Common around Dade County and a sturdy prolific variety, we use mainly for cooking.

S.

chong · 07-09-2013, 07:53 PM

I vote Dwarf Orinoco, also.

chipboy44 · 07-09-2013, 08:43 PM

Im no expert, but from ALL of my years experience, I would put all my money on Orinoco. I have grown them for 20 years just to fry and eat. They are also very winter hardy and even take a light frost. They should be a requirement in everyones collection. Nothing like fried ripe hog bananas (Orinoco)

Salute'
rick

Darkman · 07-10-2013, 09:32 AM

Just send me the pups. I'd like to try them here in Pensacola and see if I can get an earlier bloom (before June 1st) and take up less space! Less space equals more mats.

PR-Giants · 07-10-2013, 10:14 AM

Kind of looks like a Cali Gold.

Darkman · 07-10-2013, 11:52 AM

I don't think I have ever seen the long striations "look" on my regular Orinocos. Is that a common look or environmental?

caliboy1994 · 07-10-2013, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR-Giants

Kind of looks like a Cali Gold.

Cali Gold seems to be a variant of Dwarf Orinoco.

chong · 07-10-2013, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caliboy1994

Cali Gold seems to be a variant of Dwarf Orinoco.

It sure is!

robguz24 · 07-10-2013, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkman

I don't think I have ever seen the long striations "look" on my regular Orinocos. Is that a common look or environmental?

Isn't that just damage from thrips? I get them on Ice Creams but it's usually controlled by spraying soapy water.

Duke21 · 07-10-2013, 11:04 PM

Don't think it is thrips as they usually look like a pimple on the skin.

chipboy44 · 07-10-2013, 11:51 PM

I must admit that the tree is very short.. My Orinoco's are all at least 10-15' tall but the fruit is the proof of variety. I have often gotten those striations on my fruits and never given it a though other than that is part of this species characteristics. They are just there. Looking at those ripe fruits make my mouth water just thinking of how good they will be after a couple more days of ripening almost to over ripe, just so I can fry them up. They are like candy.....

rick

Darkman · 07-11-2013, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chipboy44

I must admit that the tree is very short.. My Orinoco's are all at least 10-15' tall but the fruit is the proof of variety. I have often gotten those striations on my fruits and never given it a though other than that is part of this species characteristics. They are just there. Looking at those ripe fruits make my mouth water just thinking of how good they will be after a couple more days of ripening almost to over ripe, just so I can fry them up. They are like candy.....

rick

I'm making a promise to myself to fry some up this year. I have only eaten them fresh.

It is depressing knowing that we have so long to wait for ours to ripen. With the Dwarfs maybe one could have several more months of fruit growing them in a greenhouse. I certainly couldn't grow the regular ones in a green house. They get Big!

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Darkman Dirt Master Darkman's Photo Gallery Location: Pensacola, FL South of I-10 Find me on the map! Zone: 8b/9a Name: Darkman Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,249 BananaBucks : 247,487 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 9,263 Times Was Thanked 1,582 Times in 702 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 243 Times	Re: Need help identifying two bananas please I don't think I have ever seen the long striations "look" on my regular Orinocos. Is that a common look or environmental? __________________ Darkman in Pensacola AS ALWAYS IMHO AND YOUR MILEAGE MAY DIFFER!!!!!!!! Life - Some assembly required, As is no warranty, Batteries not included, Instructions shipped separately and are frequently wrong! Kentucky Bourbon - It may not solve the problem but it helps to make it tolerable! Statistics - Data that analyst twist to support the insane opinions of those that pay them.

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