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Old 07-18-2021, 02:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default Is this Namwah or Blue Java?

Hello Everyone.

I got these bananas off of facebook market place as corms for our non profit nursery in Oakland Ca to microset.

Anyhow I asked for pictures of the plant and the fruit because I suspected they may not be blue java, though he said the green fruit eventually had a blue tinge.

Below are the pictures. Can anyone help me id these (4 pics linked below)?

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Old 07-18-2021, 11:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Default Re: Is this Namwah or Blue Java?

According to this video it looks like NW.
https://youtu.be/jjUFw_qQ0po
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Below are the pictures. Can anyone help me id these (4 pics linked below)?

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Default Re: Is this Namwah or Blue Java?

If the banana's blue up, it will be Blue Java. I don't think it's the "Ice cream"/Namwah (USDA "Fougamou 1") because the fruits individually meet the peduncle at a knuckle. Namwah fruit hands meet the peduncle by joining to a pad first.

If the fruits do not turn any more blue, then it would be some form of Bluggoe (Orinoco types).

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https://www.ars.usda.gov/southeast-a...usda-ars-tars/

https://www.ars.usda.gov/southeast-a...ction-catalog/
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You can't really use those for a general reference.
Those are catalogs for what the TARS has IN STOCK.

It's not a very good way of trying to get specific.
Didn't you email me once referring to those?
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Default Re: Is this Namwah or Blue Java?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say those aren't Namwa. I believe Blue Java is a bluggoe so it is related to Orinoco. The leaves on the plants pictured look like Orinoco like leaves. Now I know this is a stupid way of identifying a banana, by the leaves, but I am not done.
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I have never fruited Blue Java but I have fruited plenty of Namwa. So I am not going to say how it looks like Blue Java, but how it doesn’t look like Namwa.

First, the fruit pictured it very blue. Namwa is more green than blue. Namwa have a blue “dusting” or whatever that rubs off (been a couple months since my last bunch so don’t remember for sure). From what I have seen, the skins on Blue Java are blue, they don’t have a coating of blueish silver like Namwa that rubs off.

The fruit shape looks like Orinoco, sort of with a “snout”. Pretty much all bananas have that, but on Orinoco it’s more prominent.


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Fruit shape is similar to my young Orinoco fruit, which have the same shape as Blue Java since it’s related, (I think) Orinoco:





The ones in the pictures definitely don’t have the pads on the hands like Namwa. So I would say that it’s Blue Java. Namwa have around an inch to a half an inch pad which Blue Java Hands connect directly to the “stalk”.

sddarkman619, I respect your opinion. I am still learning so maybe you are seeing something I am not seeing. Please tell us why you think it’s Namwa.
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It doesn’t look like Namwa to me. Probably Blue Java or Orinoco. If it turns blue then Blue Java if not then Orinoco. Kinda think it’s an Orinoco. Either way congratulations on your bunch!
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I am actually leaning now more toward orinoco. They just don't look like BJ to me.

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Default Re: Is this Namwah or Blue Java?

Not Namwah. They do look more like standard Orinoco than Blue Java from those photos. They are closely related.
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Default Re: Is this Namwah or Blue Java?

ok. the guy I got them from said that
they were blue java and that the fruit
had a blue hue. he was selling pumps
on fb marketplace and sent me these photos.

he also stated ...
The fruit will have a slightly blue dusty color

Not sure if that changes anything. they weren't that expensive and he was just digging them up from his yard in florida.
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Where in Florida? 🤔

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I dont know where. I just found him on FB market place, I ll see if the info is in the post
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