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Old 05-30-2011, 09:38 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Jon's neighbor also grows Tall Namwah and Jon has commented that it's a good banana. He should be able to comment on differences/similarities.
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Well Mitchel, you've had them, so you know better than I do -- I've only had a few that Jon shared with me. I remember them having a more complex, fruity flavor than the tall and dwarf namwahs I've had. Jon's description is "very creamy banana with a light apple-cider overtone and finish". Which I have to admit, is not very different from how I'd describe namwah. I think you'd have to grow tall Namwah next to the Pisang Awak "Misi Luki" to figure out if there is really any difference between the two. Jon grows "Misi Luki" and dwarf Namwah. He could chime in on whether the flavors are different at all.
I just wanted to hear you say it!

There are some similarities in taste, but that holds true for every banana I've grown with the exception of Jamaican Red. That said the "Misi Luki" I got from Jon is no match for Pisang Klotek aka Mysore taste wise.
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Mitchel, you got me. But at this point, just based on plant appearance and fruit taste, I'm still sticking to my story: namwah and misi luki are both Pisang Awak cultivars, but aren't exactly the same. Give me 5 more years and I might have enough experience to back up my opinion!

You know I agree with you on the flavor -- even the "substandard" Pisang Klotek fruit you generously gave me had incredible flavor, better than Misi Luki to my tastebuds.

PS -- The PK you gave me sent up a real pup this week, not a canna posing as a pup!
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This morning my Misi Luki is displaying a flag leaf. The p-stem height (base of flag leaf) is 10-ft 8-in, or 3.25 meters. This Misi Luki cultivar is from a tray of Misi Luki TC's I purchased from Agri-Starts.
Here's a second, shorter flag leaf. Perhaps I'll have a bud out by mid-July.

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Here's a second, shorter flag leaf. Perhaps I'll have a bud out by mid-July.

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I have 72 of Agristart's "misi luki". I cannot tell the difference between dwarf Namwah and Misi Luki's taste. The main differences I have noticed is that there are generally fewer hands per bunch and fewer fingers per hand. It sort of looks like a shorter version of some plants that I have seen that are labeled as Ice Cream.
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I have 72 of Agristart's "misi luki". I cannot tell the difference between dwarf Namwah and Misi Luki's taste. The main differences I have noticed is that there are generally fewer hands per bunch and fewer fingers per hand. It sort of looks like a shorter version of some plants that I have seen that are labeled as Ice Cream.
The p-stem of my Misi Luki is 4 feet taller than any Ice Cream I've ever seen produce fruit in this region.
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The p-stem of my Misi Luki is 4 feet taller than any Ice Cream I've ever seen produce fruit in this region.
The place where I have seen the two together the Misi Luki is probably about 12'-14' tall while the plants labeled as Ice Cream are more in the 16'-20' range. I'l repeat that I have no idea whether or not it is truly an ice cream banana, I'll try to get some pics of them today.
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The bud is so radical I had to secure the stalk with a come-along.

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Statistics and Pictures for the "AgriStarts Misi Luki" I grew in San Diego, CA.

Fruiting height of pstem: 10.5 feet (3.2 meters)
Number of months from tissue culture plug planted in ground to flower bud: 14.
Number of fingers per hand: 8.
Number of female hands: 10, plus partial hand with 2 female and 6 male.
Number of pups: 3 to 5 per month.

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This 'Misi Luki' still appears to be a type of Pisang Awak (Namwah). I have recently seen some full grown field plants from Agri-Starts of it and so can definitely confirm. There seems to be have been some kind of mix-up in the names some time ago (as is always common with plants) as the original 'Misi Luki' of Samoa is a Mysore, not a Pisang Awak.
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Statistics and Pictures for the "AgriStarts Misi Luki" I grew in San Diego, CA.

Fruiting height of pstem: 10.5 feet (3.2 meters)
Number of months from tissue culture plug planted in ground to flower bud: 14.
Number of fingers per hand: 8.
Number of female hands: 10, plus partial hand with 2 female and 6 male.
Number of pups: 3 to 5 per month.
Except for the height, seems to be about the same as mine. A 2' height difference is probably attributable to the difference in growing conditions in San Diego and Canal Point.
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This 'Misi Luki' still appears to be a type of Pisang Awak (Namwah). I have recently seen some full grown field plants from Agri-Starts of it and so can definitely confirm. There seems to be have been some kind of mix-up in the names some time ago (as is always common with plants) as the original 'Misi Luki' of Samoa is a Mysore, not a Pisang Awak.
So I wonder if the plant I got from Magilla Gorilla a couple of years back labeled as 'Misi Luki' is really 'Mysore' instead. That wouldn't be so bad.
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Do you use a GPS to get around all of your plants? It sure sounds like you might need one. Wish I was so ambitious. Thanks for all of your posts and pics.
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So I wonder if the plant I got from Magilla Gorilla a couple of years back labeled as 'Misi Luki' is really 'Mysore' instead. That wouldn't be so bad.
If you think you might have a 'Mysore', they are very easy to ID. They have a red tint to the undersides of the leaves, especially noticeable on newly emerging leaves, and the pseudostems typically have lots of black pigmentation. The Pisang Awak "Misi Luki" will not have the red undersides of the leaves or the extensive black coloration.
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To date, all of the other Musa cultivars I've grown have 12 fingers per hand. This particular plant has 8 fingers per hand. Is this expected from some cultivars, or ...
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If you think you might have a 'Mysore', they are very easy to ID. They have a red tint to the undersides of the leaves, especially noticeable on newly emerging leaves, and the pseudostems typically have lots of black pigmentation. The Pisang Awak "Misi Luki" will not have the red undersides of the leaves or the extensive black coloration.
Yeah, we've discussed that before (I think in this very thread) about the red tinting on the undersides of the leaves. Mine has never shown that at all, so I' ve been prett sure for about a year now that it isn't 'Misi Luki'. I'm just trying to narrow down the possibilities of what it may be. It flowered last year but it was so late that no fruit developed, so we'll see what happens this year.
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Gabe,
I have a mature "Misi Luki" from agri-starts. It fits Richard's description. I have noticed a subtle light red on the back of the emerging leaf, but it fades within a day of opening fully. Is this color possible with a 'Namwah' type?
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I have a mature "Misi Luki" from agri-starts. It fits Richard's description. I have noticed a subtle light red on the back of the emerging leaf, but it fades within a day of opening fully. Is this color possible with a 'Namwah' type?
I have seen that color on some Namwah types in certain situations as you describe, so yes it is possible. With Mysore, it is not fading, it is persistent and covers the entire leaf lower surface.
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Yeah, we've discussed that before (I think in this very thread) about the red tinting on the undersides of the leaves. Mine has never shown that at all, so I' ve been prett sure for about a year now that it isn't 'Misi Luki'. I'm just trying to narrow down the possibilities of what it may be. It flowered last year but it was so late that no fruit developed, so we'll see what happens this year.
Do you have any photos of the female bud or young fruits? It is still possible to ID if it is a distinct enough variety.
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