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Old 07-13-2013, 07:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The nomenclature system used to classify banana cultivars was developed by Norman Simmonds and Kenneth Shepherd in 1955. It classifies cultivated bananas into genome groups, according to the relative contribution of their ancestral wild species, and into subgroups, sets of closely related cultivars. This system eliminates almost all the difficulties and inconsistencies of a taxonomy based on Musa paradisiaca and Musa sapientum. However, due to difficulties in assigning certain cultivars to a subgroup, and to a lesser extent to a group, there are inconsistencies in the way the system has been applied. Adding to the confusion is the continued use of Latin binomials to classify cultivated bananas. Cultivated bananas are unusual in not having a Latin scientific name.

In this system, bananas, at least the ones that are related to Musa acuminata and Musa balbisiana, are classified according to the relative contribution of these species designated by the letter A, for acuminata, and B, for balbisiana. A cultivar is assigned to a genome group according to the number of chromosome sets in its genome (its ploidy) and the species that donated them. Diploid cultivars can belong to the AA or AB genome group, while triploid cultivars fall into three genome groups: AAA, AAB and ABB.

Some taxonomists recognize a BBB genome group, but its existence has not been conclusively demonstrated. Tetraploid cultivars are mostly hybrids produced by breeders.


Scoring system

The system is based on 15 characters that were chosen because they are different in Musa acuminata and Musa balbisiana. Each character is scored on a scale from one (typical Musa acuminata) to five (typical Musa balbisiana). The possible total scores range from a minimum of 15 to a maximum of 75. The expected scores are 15 for AA and AAA, 35 for AAB, 45 for AB, 55 for ABB and 75 for BB.


Simmonds & Shepherd's
Genome-Based Scoring System



Catalog of Musa Accessions
Mantained by USDA-ARS TARS



USDA-ARS TARS
Musa Taxonomic Reference Collection Catalog







Bioversity International

Bioversity - Annual Report 1998

Bioversity - Annual Report 1999

Bioversity - Annual Report 2000

Bioversity - Annual Report 2002

Musa Genomics: Free text search


Musa Germplasm Information System

Tropgene

Banana Terminology

Descriptors for Musa

Morphology of banana plant



Catalogues


A catalogue of wild and cultivated bananas
A tribute to the work of Paul Allen



Musalogue


Papua New Guinea collecting missions 1988-89


Catalogue of
introduced and local banana cultivars in the Philippines



Pohnpei banana varieties - a work in progress


Consultancy report on training in the identification and characterization of banana varieties and development of the banana industry in Pohnpei, Federated States of Micronesia

Banana Cultivar Names and Synonyms in Southeast Asia



Caribbean


Organic banana 2000:
Towards an organic banana initiative in the Caribbean





Hawaii

Bulletin 7

Bulletin 55

Farmer's Bookshelf: Tropical Crop Production in Hawaii

Pacific Island Agroforestry - August 2006 ver. 2.2

Pacific Island Agroforestry - February 2007 ver. 1

Pacific Island Agroforestry - Banana and Plantain





Queensland’s Department of Agriculture

Queensland Government - Department of Agriculture

Australian Bananas magazine | Summer 2013-2014







Florida

University of Florida

University of Florida 1995

University of Florida - Banana and Plantains

University of Florida - Banana Growing in the Florida Home Landscape






FHIA - Profile & Links

Banana research in India


Propagating quality planting material to improve plant health and crop performance, key practices for dessert banana, plantain and cooking banana: Illustrated guide



Multidisciplinary perspectives on banana
(Musa spp.) domestication


An update from Papua New Guinea

Why Bananas Matter:
An introduction to the history of banana domestication


Musa èŠ*蕉属





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Thanks PR-Giants for the excellent links. However the link to the B genotype does not work.
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Excellent links.

I think it would take a week to fill out the descriptor list for even one banana.
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This pdf file contains a lot of information on banana cultivars.
Farmers’ Handbook on Introduced and Local Banana Cultivars in the Philippines


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Brief Description of Banana Cultivars Available from the University of Hawaii Seed Program pdf file

Banana and plantain—an overview with emphasis on Pacific island cultivars. pdf file








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Ken at HawaiiFruit.net gave me permission to share Big Island Bananas Poster.

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I have that banana poster on my office wall! There are a few errors, of course. FHIA-18 is Bananza and SH-3640 is High Noon. The Pisang Mas doesn't look correct, and is usually called Sucrier here or Kluay Khai. Golden Pillow is an AAB. Putalinga is a Tongan type, not a true Hawaiian Popo'ulu type. Tall Red is the same as Cuban/Jamaican Red as far as I know, and the two Dwarf Reds are probably the same. Although people here seem to have or at least believe the Tall Reds come in 3 different sizes. Great poster though.

This is the 2nd (latest) version I think. Hopefully they will do it again and make it larger.
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Nice thread.............
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Symptoms of banana streak virus (left) and cucumber mosaic virus (right) on the same banana leaf.
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Alot of reference material and information.
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Illustrated Guide to the Identification of Banana Varieties in the South Pacific - 1995

IDENTIFICATI0N OF VARIETIES

Identification of banana varieties is
difficult but is essential for choosing
the correct type for marketing and
for gaining understanding of pest
and disease relationships.

Identification is made much easier
once the observer has developed
mental pictures of the different types
of bananas. Photographs of
varieties are therefore of great
assistance and are particularly
useful for inexperienced
observers trying to identity a
variety. Even for experienced
observers, they can be a useful
additional aid, particularly where
large numbers of varieties are
being considered and for those
varieties not often seen.

This guide attempts to cover
most of the banana varieties
likely to be encountered in the
South Pacific region. With this
information, the ability to identity
illegally introduced clones or the
newer ones being evaluated for
resistance to black Sigatoka will
be enhanced.

Identifying varieties by deduction
is far easier than by induction.
That is to say, if the full range of
varieties in a locality is known,
for example by reference to
photographs, then a specimen
with unique morphological
features can be identified readily.

However, difficulties occur when
plants grown in an environment
markedly different from that to
which the observer is
accustomed are presented for
identification. Problems in
identification also arise when
the observer is exposed to a new
variety, and no bunches are
available for inspection.

To overcome these problems the
following steps are proposed.
First compare the variety to be
identified with the photographs.
Next, if further clarification is
needed, refer to Table 3 and
sequentially work through
pseudostem height,
distinguishing features, black
Sigatoka reaction and bunch
characteristics.

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That is a bunch of links. I have a couple plants with a ? Of the identity. Wealth of info here.
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WOW... good bump, it's been over 2 years.

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Anyone managed to download the usda tars catalogues? I get an error page.
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Same here. I used to access it ok. Never downloaded it though. Starting awhile back. Maybe a year! It started giving the error page. It’s too big to share or email. I wish someone who has it could upload it to a backup site, etc.

If anyone does have it downloaded and can get it to me somehow. I would add it to my server myself and give free access to it as a backup. PM me if you have it saved and wanna try.
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For members that might not be able to distinguish between Ney Mannan/Blue Java on the left and the Pisang Awak/Namwa on the right focus on the differences of the crown and pedicels.

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Can you tell me what document/book those terrific identification figures (the scans) are from?
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