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Old 11-21-2011, 05:02 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Default Re: Ice Cream: The real deal?

In the Misi Luki thread, Gabe has been instructing us that the Agristarts Dwarf Namwah and Misi Luki are forms of Pisang Awak.

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This 'Misi Luki' still appears to be a type of Pisang Awak (Namwah). I have recently seen some full grown field plants from Agri-Starts of it and so can definitely confirm. There seems to be have been some kind of mix-up in the names some time ago (as is always common with plants) as the original 'Misi Luki' of Samoa is a Mysore, not a Pisang Awak.
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Default Re: Ice Cream: The real deal?

Could be Dwarf Brazilian. Also, Rajapuri is a good possibility, given that I can't distinguish my D Braz from my Rajapuri by their appearance. Both are readily available from nurseries in So Cal. My FHIA 18 and FHIA 2 also look very similar, though their leaves are not as erect as D Braz or Rajapuri. Or it could be 800 other ones! Not really, but I'm sure there are several others that look very similar. You won't know until it makes an inflorescence, but D Braz or Rajapuri is a good guess at this point.
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And the mystery deepens...The pups on one of my plants are beginning to show wine splotches.
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And the mystery deepens...The pups on one of my plants are beginning to show wine splotches.
Post some pictures. If the wine splotches are dark, it's probably an AAA cultivar or AAAB. If they are light, it's probably an AAB, like Dwarf Brazilian or Rajapuri.
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Default Re: Ice Cream: The real deal?

They're not much, but they're still wine splotches.

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Default Re: Ice Cream: The real deal?

It definitely seems like Dwarf Brazilian and Raja Puri are possible ID's! They are both great bananas and so are Ice cream bananas. Whatever it is, it looks great and at least it's not a cavendish!
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The odd thing is is that these two pups appeared to start out as sword pups. They put out one or two really thin leaves before putting out wider leaves. Anyways, I'll keep you guys updated with pictures and the like.
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Default Re: Ice Cream: The real deal?

The same thing happened to my Maybe Dwarf Orinoco, it put out a pup that had sword leaves at first and then put out wider leaves. Maybe because the mat isn't too established yet?
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Default Re: Ice Cream: The real deal?

That's probably the case. The p-stem of the mother plant is only about three and a half feet tall.
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It's weird though; I also have a Super Dwarf Cavendish that's barely a foot tall, if that, and it has a pup that has about ten leaves now, all sword leaves. Bananas are mysterious lol
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Default Re: Ice Cream: The real deal?

Yes they are.

Now I have a banana plant that is supposed to be a real Ice Cream, but based on the coloration I think it's a Pisang Awak of some sort. Still a great plant though, and now at least I know what to expect when it decides to throw a bud I will eventually get my hands on the real one though.
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I feel you on that note. The only variety of all my bananas that I have that I'm reasonably sure about are the Super Dwarf Cavendishes, and even those I'm beginning to suspect were just suckers of stunted Dwarf Cavendish lol. Yep it does help to know what sort of fruit to expect; I have one myself that I'm thinking and hoping is a Mysore since they have great large amounts of tasty fruit

One of my friends has a fruiting banana with blueish fruits, so I'm thinking that one might be an Ice Cream. I think she call those ones Cuban bananas
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Or it could be Pisang Awak, which can have bluish fruits (but not as blue as Ice Cream). Anyways, one way to tell if your plant is Mysore (or at least in the Mysore subgroup) is to look at the underside of newly emerged leaves. They should be a nice reddish color, like this:

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Default Re: Ice Cream: The real deal?

None of my raja have ever had spots, or been anything other then green. Of the plants I have, I've only seen wine spots on the DC and Goldfinger pups. Be interesting to see what the plant ends up looking like.
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I believe there are lots of different varieties that can have wine spots. As well as Cavendish and GF, a lot of varieties in the AAA group have prominent wine spots, as well as plantains. Some AAB bananas (like my Mysore) can have wine spots too. Generally I think the rule is the more A genes a plant has, the more wine spots.
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At this point, my best guess is DB or Rajapuri.
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those last pics show for anyone else?

first pic on this page sure looks like my DB
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Looks AWESOME!

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Another pic.

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