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ivo_nekitov 08-19-2011 02:03 AM

Help to identify
 
I already asked but in the beginning of the summer the plant was too little, and suppose it was difficult to recognize it. So let's try again:

the unknown banana when I planted it in the middle of may
and the same banana few days ago, 3 months latter.

Why its so important to me to identify it? Because of it's wintering: I must know does he have some chances to overwinter in 7a zone (at least his corm - well mulched or even with some heating - I just became in love in that plant, it grows from 2 feet in the first photo to 10 to 10 and more(to the top of the spear) for 3 months only, and seems very great and... "architectural" :) Even regret that planted it there, so close to that peach, but HOW I to expect him to grow SO BIG?? :)

Some additional information: in june I cut 2 of 4 pups he had, but unfortunately they haven't roots :( I put him in water. One lives, but not the big one: he made from the part of older's corm I cut another one little(maybe 1 inch large) with two little pups and some roots, So I planted it and the new banana had already 2 new leaves, 2-3 inches big. Hope it will survive.
But the more serious problem is with the big plant. To the end of vegetation it will be at least with 7-9 feet pseudostem, with very hard and big underground corm and it will be practically impossible or very difficult to dig it and put in large pot to overwinter. Even that, I will try to do anything possible to save it - it looks just great, my first banana taller than 10 ft :)
So pls, let me know what kind is it. Will try to do some bigger photos this weekend when i go to my "rancho" there :)

If they are helpful, some older photos of the plant:
25th of june

11th july

And more: this plant have some hardiness: last winter he survived two periods of few days with temps between 35-45 F it that room where keep it, even in February grows a little.

hydroid 08-21-2011 02:12 AM

Re: Help to identify
 
I'm no expert but it looks like a Basjoo to me. Hope this helps.
hydroid

ArchAngeL01 08-21-2011 04:52 PM

Re: Help to identify
 
Definitely not a Musa Basjoo, it lacks the "wings" on the petioles.
I would say that gabe will give you an id.

ivo_nekitov 08-22-2011 01:52 AM

Re: Help to identify
 
Thanks for the answer, Bo, but seems it is not Basjoo, it,s too different from my other Basjoos, and have some waxy ... thing: ) on it, I read older discussions here, Basjoo didn't. And the pups seems very different to Basjoo little pups, they(and the old one) have more... hm, "aristocratic" view:))
Will try to upload some new photos in bananas galleries in a few minutes.

Done. Made a gallery and uploaded some photos, hope they will be useful to recognize it : )

hydroid 08-22-2011 03:12 AM

Re: Help to identify
 
HMMMM!! goes to show you what I know, he he.

bikoro child 08-22-2011 03:38 AM

Re: Help to identify
 
Hi ,your pics do'nt really show all the characters of your banana...we do'nt see how the petioles really are (closed or open) ,do'nt see the shape of the leaves base but I would say maybe dwarf orinoco...

ivo_nekitov 08-22-2011 04:32 AM

Re: Help to identify
 
Thanks, Ivan, your suggestion is the second one for that kind of banana. I'll try this weekend to make some more quality pics with higher resolution (these in the gallery now are 2 MP only). I read the banana Wiki and maybe your assumption is nearest to the true. In this case I will happy, because as I see, that banana has some hardiness and in a same time produces edible bananas : ))

Gabe15 08-22-2011 11:57 AM

Re: Help to identify
 
It is too young to ID for sure.

kcj1219 08-22-2011 05:10 PM

Re: Help to identify
 
It does look a lot like a Dwarf Orinoco. Not for sure though. But you'd be in luck then because its very cold hardy. They normally flower at 6-7'.

ivo_nekitov 08-23-2011 01:18 AM

Re: Help to identify
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabe15 (Post 171623)
It is too young to ID for sure.

Thanks, Gabe. I'll take as a working hypothesis this is D.Orinoco, and till November will take a decision to leave it in a ground or try to dig it in a big pot for wintering. Wiki said the plant will survive 7b, so my zone is "on a deadline"(7a), but think with a heavy protection the corm will be OK, but its not enough, I want to save the p-stem too :)
So I will gladly accept any advice about that. Thanks again, have a nice day,
Ivo

ivo_nekitov 08-23-2011 01:26 AM

Re: Help to identify
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kcj1219 (Post 171649)
It does look a lot like a Dwarf Orinoco. Not for sure though. But you'd be in luck then because its very cold hardy. They normally flower at 6-7'.

Thanks about that information(flowering height), that re-confirmed my decision to keep at all costs its beautiful p-stem and who knows, maybe the next summer we will see it flowering?)


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