mskitty38583

how do you tell if your nana is a dwarf cavnedish?? charlie is having an identity crisis. hes healthy and keeps throwing out new leaves, hes only a foot tall. ive only had to clip one leaf off him. the pup on him is beautiful and green. charlie is only a foot tall, and im confused. if anyone has an idea or even a clue, i have pics in the gallery under 'charlie'. i would appriciate even an educated guess. that would be great. thank you

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is there no one on this forum who can give charlie a identificatiion?? even an educated guess is better then nothing. thanks

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maybe little prince or just a cavendish???
because Little Prince is small and this one also, that's the one thing I can say, sorry

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He looks like my Novak.

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i appriciate the effort. its just difficult to read up on a tree when you dont know what kind it is. thanks guys!

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Charlie sure doesn't look like my Dwarf Cavendish. However, the Dwarf Cavendish group has quite a variety of cultivars.

He does look like a picture of the Super Dwarf Cavendish on www.webebananas.com

The SD Cavendish gets to be about 3 feet tall. Having Charlie in a pot will reduce his size as compared with having him in a garden in Florida.

How old is Charlie? If he is tissue cultured, he could take several years to reach full height.

Perhaps Charlie has a size complex and you haven't been cuddling him and reassuring him enough.

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Gabe15

To definetly ID a 1ft tall plant is rarely easy. Why are you confused about the ID? If you bought it as a Dwarf Cavendish what is it that is causing you doubts? Bananas will take a about a year to reach full size given the absolute prime conditions.

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when i bought him, he was suppossed to be a red iholene. it turns out charlie is no red iholene. thats why were having an identity crisis. i was wondering if it was possible if they had sent me a dwarf cavandivish by mistake.yall have more experience then i when it comes to id nanas. i have never seen a dc up close and personal so thats why i had asked. this is the case of i didnt get what i ordered and thats why im dazed and confused. oh and charlie does get spoiled. he as well as the rest of my nanas, get filtered water, shredded cabbage one time a week when i water, he has consistant temps of 70-75 *f, and he has a humidifier to keep it nice and comfy in the banana room.and i see him more then i do my 16 yr. old. he is more sociables then my daughter is anyway. they get checked everymorning to make sure there are no spider mites, and he gets his pot turned ever day to get lite evenly. so yes they all are spoiled. he was a pup cut off a mom tree, off a plantation out of equadore. when they sent him to me and i unwrapped him, he already had a pup attached to him. i bought him through the bananatree.com. hes healthy and very green,and im glad for that it just makes research a little difficult. i got charlie at the end of october, and he was about 1 inch shorter then he is now. he throws leaves but hes still short. no coffee for the nanas.

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Gabe15

Its only a tiny little tissue cultured plant, it often takes awhile longer for mature traits to show. If you donʻt know what it is, how do you know its not a Iholena?

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the red iholene have the red marking on the leaves almost like a hcm. thats what ive read anyway. could it be they sent a white iholene instead?? i dont know. you are the senior banan gurus here, im just peon, i dont know much about nanas except what ive learned here. the paper they sent with him says red iholene in hand writting, but theres no red markings on his leaves, the white iholene dont have markings and hes so little. it says they reach maturity if conditions are ment in 13-15 months and in how i provide the proper conditions for him. they said to start with a small pot not a large on, so hes in a 8-10 inch pot.the title on the page says that dc grows to 6 ft.do you see why im dazed and confused? i order one type and its in writting on the paper and in typed print it talkes about cd. uuuuuuhhhhh!

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Markings do always show up until later in TC plants, wait until it has a few feet of solid pseudostem before being too concerned about its identity.

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ok thank you, i just wanted to read as much as possible on the care and well being of my tree.yall have been doing this a lot longer then i have and your advise is important to me. so thank you and i guess me and charlie will have to wait. thank you thank you thank you

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Believe me MsKitty; I KNOW how hard it is to wait!!!!!
After last years frost, I forgot what several of my plants are. Especially the ones that I thought were goners and I dug up and potted, and forgot to label.

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it is hard. i feel like a 4 yr old child wanting a tootsie pop and mom saying if your good you can have it when you get home...but mom that will take to long. it almost feels like that song from stevie ray von- tick tock people, times ticking away...sorry another moment!

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My red Iholene has NO red on the leaves at all. The midrib is pinkish but that's about it. I can tell you the my Dwarf Cav has LARGE, dark green, wide, thick leaves and the Red Iholene has light green, long, narrow, not very thick leaves. They are at least twice the length of the DC.

See below pics of both. But as already mentioned, at under a foot, they ALL look the same.
If you want a comparison, look to the right of the Red Iholene. That is a clump of Double Moahi (sp?). That is a variety of Dwarf Cav so their looks and size are identical. The RI and the DM in that same picture are both just a little short of fruiting size.

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mskitty38583

wow. ok. i get it. so not all red iholene get the red. and the double moahi is beautiful. well i guess that we will have to wait till charlie gets a little older and bigger to see what kind he is. thank you all it just get frusterating and thank you for your pics they are beautiful trees. thanks everyone, i have to have patience..

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Samantha,

Here is a pic of some of my Super Dwf Cavendish pups. Note that some have fat rounded all green leaves and some do not - but those are variegated - at least they are at this small stage of growth. Like everyone has said....... Id'ing is best attempted at a more mature stage of development. All these little guys came from the one single SDC I bought from Stokes. Except the one on the far right - that's a Dwf Orinoco pup.

As the rich doctor said -- You need to have alot of "patience" - I do! Whatever!?

Dan

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the more i see of the dc, the more thats what i think charlie is. i went to encanto farms site and looked at the dc that is pictured there and now i see yours i really think thats what charlie is. i know that the id is gonna have to wait, but the more leaves that he shoots out the more they look like the cd leaves. ill know come this spring/summer cause im gonna get a dc or sdc if i have to go to florida to get one. thanks for the pics they are some nice trees.the stem in the middle of charlies leaves is almost a dark as the leaves themselves, that was what was throwing me off.most of the pics ive seen the main vein in the leaf is a dark yellow, lime color. so i will have patience, even though im not a dr. or nurse..lol ill just have to wait..and wait..and wait..

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