bananito ?

rick2001 · 10-09-2010, 09:30 AM

Today at Auchan (a sort of european Wal-mart) I've bought some very small 'nanas identified only as "Bananito" from ecuador.

They are very sweet and creamy.... delicious !

I was wondering what cultivar are them .....

Here are some pics:

The Hollyberry Lady · 10-09-2010, 09:35 AM

Not sure but wish I could taste them!

: )

Bananaman88 · 10-09-2010, 09:39 AM

I think Bonita is the brand, like Chiquita in the U.S.

rick2001 · 10-09-2010, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bananaman88

I think Bonita is the brand, like Chiquita in the U.S.

Yes I searched on the web and bonita is a company pretty much like Chiquita or Dole , and is owned by one of the richest of ecuadorian man (and the company has a very bad reputation between workers.... )

The only other info I found is this:

Orito

UE Y JAPON: DESTINOS DEL ORITO ECUATORIANO
El orito no es un banano “chiquito”. Es una variedad diferente de musácea. Su principal cualidad es su sabor más dulce que el de su primo de mayor tamaño, el cavendish, el de exportación.

En Ecuador, el orito (musa acuminata AA) pasó de ser un cultivo marginal para convertirse en un prometedor producto de exportación. EE.UU., Japón y cuatro países de la Unión Europea ya consumen esta variedad de banano como fruta exótica. “La demanda crece lentamente, con mercados interesantes en el futuro como el Reino Unido”, afirma María Antonieta Reyes, coordinadora del área Banano de la Corporación de Promoción de Exportaciones e Inversiones (Corpei).

Las exportaciones de orito se concretan a través de tradicionales firmas exportadoras de banano, como Noboa, o mediante convenios de compras anuales entre importadores -europeos en este caso-y pequeñas asociaciones de productores bananeros, bajo el sistema Comercio Justo. Buena parte del orito que exporta Noboa lo adquiere a productores independientes, ubicados en el subtrópico de la provincia de Bolívar, específicamente del sitio Tablas de la Florida y sus alrededores, en el cantón Caluma.

En esta localidad, al menos 17 agricultores se dedican al cultivo comercial de la pequeña musácea. Para ellos, el cuidado de la plantación es riguroso. “Hacemos la limpieza de maleza regularmente, porque es una plantación que no utiliza pesticidas para crecer”, indica el productor calumeño Rómulo Vargas, poseedor de unas Ocho hectáreas de orito.

En Caluma predomina el orito para la exportación, pero localidades de Guayas, El Oro y Cañar también están un paso adelante, pues tienen han obtenido la certificación de producto orgánico. Desde hace dos años, seis organizaciones campesinas exportan orito, en estado natural y procesado a través de la marca Corporito.

Las 290 familias de Corporito envían 250 kilos de polvo de la fruta a Alemania, desde finales del 2004. Según Cristóbal Castillo, gerente de la empresa, los germanos aprecian las propiedades endulzantes de la fruta y por ello utilizan el polvo en la elaboración de caramelos y suplementos nutricionales. La fruta también va a otros mercados en forma natural.

El Banco Central no tiene datos específicos sobre las exportaciones de orito. No obstante, en la partida arancelaria ‘otras musáceas’ -que incluye a las variedades de orito, morado, rojo y Gross mitchel- se detalla que el año pasado Ecuador exportó 78 321 toneladas, un 3,61 por ciento más que el año previo. Vargas conoce de las ventajas de tener un cultivo certificado como orgánico y, por ello, está empeñado en la reconversión de su hacienda. “Son exigencias de los europeos”, menciona.

LA CERTIFICACIÓN
La entidad alemana GTZ indica que en Ecuador están certificadas cuatro gremios: Corporito, Cerro Azul,
Asociación de Pequeños Productores El Guabo y Apal. Producen 20 cajas semanales por ha.

El costo de producción de una hectárea de orito es de 1 680 dólares. Un jornalero eventual gana siete dólares, mientras que uno permanente gana un promedio de 30 dólares.

El orito se cultiva desde los 200 metros sobre el nivel del mar hasta los 1 000 metros. La fruta exportable se produce hasta los 800 metros de altura.

(*) Fuente: AsociaciÃ³n de Exportadores de Banano del Ecuador |

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Jack Daw · 10-09-2010, 10:11 AM

Might be Oritos. There was a gal from Ecuador here now some time ago and she described Oritos as small, very tasty and favorite bananas... Search for it and you will find your answer.

rick2001 · 10-09-2010, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Daw

Might be Oritos. There was a gal from Ecuador here now some time ago and she described Oritos as small, very tasty and favorite bananas... Search for it and you will find your answer.

Yes I searched for it before posting the question but as far as I could read none described exactly the cultivar of this so called Oritos .....
is it Niño ? Ladyfinger ?
Musa 'Orito'

Anyway I hope that if my Niño will fruit ever , the nanas will taste like the bananito , because they are great !

Jack Daw · 10-09-2010, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick2001

Yes I searched for it before posting the question but as far as I could read none described exactly the cultivar of this so called Oritos .....
is it Niño ? Ladyfinger ?
Musa 'Orito'

Anyway I hope that if my Niño will fruit ever , the nanas will taste like the bananito , because they are great !

Yeah, the taxonomy's bad. I guess they are just called Oritos where they come from and nobody really bothers classifying them to a wider group. Dunno.
Maybe Gabe will answer, when he gets here.

Dalmatiansoap · 10-09-2010, 11:47 AM

Im affraid that are second class Cavendish naners we get here all the time, first class fruits are rare here

. They are on allmost 90% of our market. Next time check labels in store.

rick2001 · 10-09-2010, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalmatiansoap

Im affraid that are second class Cavendish naners we get here all the time, first class fruits are rare here

. They are on allmost 90% of our market. Next time check labels in store.

As any 'nanas maniac on the forum would do

, the Label was carefully inspected but it reported only the word "bananito",
To me doesn't seem any kind of cavendish, otherwise I'd sign with blood to have 2 class fruit so tasty!!! The cavendish flavour is nothing compared to them...

Quote:

Yeah, the taxonomy's bad. I guess they are just called Oritos where they come from and nobody really bothers classifying them to a wider group. Dunno.

I volunteer to classify the plant.... my scientific/humanitarian ( and uninterested) spirit can't stand to leave human kind ignorant about this plant taxonomy.... just give me one and I'll sacrifice a piece of my land to enlight Humanity !

Linda_GER · 10-09-2010, 12:53 PM

If you have the product code, you can also find out the variety.

Banana Leaves (4232)
Burro (4229)
Dominique (4230)
Green (4231)
Hawaiian Plantain (3287)
Manzano / Apple Banana (4233)
Nino (4234)
Plantain / Macho (4235)
Red (4236)
Yellow [including Cavendish] (4011), small (4186)
retailer assigned (4237-4238)

Jack Daw · 10-09-2010, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick2001

I volunteer to classify the plant.... my scientific/humanitarian ( and uninterested) spirit can't stand to leave human kind ignorant about this plant taxonomy.... just give me one and I'll sacrifice a piece of my land to enlight Humanity !

Maybe you could e-mail the company...

hydroid · 10-09-2010, 01:40 PM

I bet they are Manzano, but don't take my word, I'm just guessing.

Dalmatiansoap · 10-09-2010, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linda_GER

If you have the product code, you can also find out the variety.

Banana Leaves (4232)
Burro (4229)
Dominique (4230)
Green (4231)
Hawaiian Plantain (3287)
Manzano / Apple Banana (4233)
Nino (4234)
Plantain / Macho (4235)
Red (4236)
Yellow [including Cavendish] (4011), small (4186)
retailer assigned (4237-4238)

OMG, where do I live?
U guys have unique banana codes

???
We dont have any different bananas not to mention codes

Linda_GER · 10-09-2010, 02:29 PM

Quote:

We dont have any different bananas not to mention codes

We don`t have different ones, either...the only one we can buy is 4011. Very boring...

GoAngels · 10-09-2010, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linda_GER

If you have the product code, you can also find out the variety.

Banana Leaves (4232)
Burro (4229)
Dominique (4230)
Green (4231)
Hawaiian Plantain (3287)
Manzano / Apple Banana (4233)
Nino (4234)
Plantain / Macho (4235)
Red (4236)
Yellow [including Cavendish] (4011), small (4186)
retailer assigned (4237-4238)

What's in a PLU?.

4234 BANANAS: Nino or Baby Banana - a group of small bananas known for their sweet, sugary flavor. Sometimes called Ladyfingers, Goldfingers, or Oroitos. Dominicos (4230 above] are often classified with this grouping.

Dalmatiansoap · 10-09-2010, 03:43 PM

Live and learn Ante, live and learn....

rick2001 · 10-10-2010, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linda_GER

If you have the product code, you can also find out the variety.

Banana Leaves (4232)
Burro (4229)
Dominique (4230)
Green (4231)
Hawaiian Plantain (3287)
Manzano / Apple Banana (4233)
Nino (4234)
Plantain / Macho (4235)
Red (4236)
Yellow [including Cavendish] (4011), small (4186)
retailer assigned (4237-4238)

The number on the label is 4234 ! If It's niño, I have the plant !!!!

rick2001 · 10-10-2010, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalmatiansoap

OMG, where do I live?
U guys have unique banana codes

???
We dont have any different bananas not to mention codes

Last friday I was watching a political talk show and during one reportage the journalist told that a very important ecuadorian banana's company changed its final destination's port from Trieste to Koper due to lower taxes, and he showed and immense ship full of 'nanas... so now you should be able to find a wider variety on market....

Look after minute 10:15....

YouTube - BALLARO' 2010 Ottobre 5 I veri interessi del Paese 07su10

You can ambush the cargo just out of the port....

Jack Daw · 10-10-2010, 02:50 AM

Sorry Rick, I tried to watch it 4 times, but I always end up watching that dark-haired woman and then am incapable of listening and gotta start again (you know, that ridiculously hot one).

But I appreciate the effort. Gotta learn that "r" sound. You know, watch one thing, when she starts talking fast etc. she can't help herself and has to gesticulate. That's almost unaxceptable here in the talkshows... it too easily uncovers the lie, one other thing why I like your language... it uses gesticulation and tone of the voice unlike any language. Also, watch her eyes. What she does, when she talks. Gotta LOVE that.

It's not that hot, when that fat man starts doing it.

On the positive note, I did get several sentences and information and am starting to recognize sentence structures.

Dalmatiansoap · 10-10-2010, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick2001

The number on the label is 4234 ! If It's niño, I have the plant !!!!

Im a second class cityzent again!!!
WHERE ARE MY NUMBERS???

P.S.
about bananas are in Kopar now doesnt changes here anything, they are still in EU only

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