harveyc

If you can post a photo or two of different stages of prior flowers it would be helpful for Gabe to take a look to see what variety he thinks it is. Gabe is our identification expert here.

Edible bananas don't cross-breed on their own so yours should be some existing variety, not a mix of varieties. Even so, there are hundreds of varieties to chose from so identification can be challenging much of the time.

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bananafarmer

Thanks for helping me to identificate, here are two photos.





The photos are from the same flower, at the same time, I will try to find a photo from another stage of development, maybe newborn, but I hope I can post more pictures, maybe my limit is reached?

GreenFin

Disclaimer: I'm not an expert by a long shot

Those plants look like Grand Nain to me, but I think the bunches in your picture look more like Gros Michel than Grand Nain. Anyone think they might be Williams Hybrid (or perhaps tall Williams)? Here's a pic of Jarred's Williams Hybrid bunch, and the fruits are really plump like bananafarmer's:




Here's a video labeled "Grand Naine banana farm" for further comparison:

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bananafarmer

I watched the video, the bunches and fruits really look like mine, but the trees are much smaller, my trees I suppose are almost double in height, I mean double in height in the same stage as in the video, when the flowers are all out.

GreenFin

The plot thickens...

Here are some possibilities:

Lacatan (my official guess)
Robusta/Valery
tall Williams
Gros Michel
?

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sunfish

Antalya's Banana Groves

http://www.pakbs.org/pjbot/PDFs/36%2...%282%29331.pdf

Turkey: Future of Alanya bananas looks bright

GreenFin

I've been searching for info on the Turkish banana industry to see if there's a standard type that's commonly grown (which might help with identifying bananafarmer's plants).

The first bit I found was a paper that compared outdoor Dwarf Cavendish to greenhouse Dwarf Cavendish.

The second bit I found was a summary of the industry that says, "The type of banana produced in Turkey is called Musa Cavendish or Dwarf Cavendish."

Third bit is an abstract from another paper: "The objective of this study was to evaluate the production potential of banana cultivars, 'Grand Nain', 'Petit Nain', 'Poyo', 'Williams' and 'Basrai', as alternatives to the 'Dwarf Cavendish' for open-field and greenhouse cultivation in subtropical conditions. Stem circumference, stem height, total leaf number, bunch stalk circumference, days from shooting to harvest, number of hands per bunch, number of fingers per bunch, finger circumference, finger length and bunch weight were measured in open-field and greenhouse cultivation. Cultivars 'Williams' and 'Grand Nain' were superior to 'Dwarf Cavendish' in greenhouse cultivation, while these two cultivars and 'Petit Nain' and 'Basrai' were superior to 'Dwarf Cavendish' in open-field cultivation. 'Poyo' was not suitable for greenhouse cultivation because of its excessive height and for open-field cultivation due to its sensitivity to wind damage. Greenhouse cultivation of bananas was superior to open-field cultivation for all cultivars with increases in yield of 19 to 28% according to the cultivar."

4th bit is another abstract from another paper: "Dwarf Cavendish, a commonly grown banana cultivar in Turkey. However, ‘Grand Nain’ is very popular cultivar under protected cultivation due to the higher yield and quality presently. The objective of this study was to compare to the banana cultivars, ‘Grand Nain’ and ‘Dwarf Cavendish’ under protected cultivation in the subtropical condition. Stem circumference, stem height, total leaf number, bunch stalk circumference, days from shooting to harvest, number of hands per bunch, number of fingers per bunch, finger circumference, finger length and bunch weight were measured in the protected cultivation. Cultivars ‘Grand Nain’ was found to be better than ‘Dwarf Cavendish’ in terms of total production, expressed as the number of hands and fingers per bunch and bunch weight under protected cultivation."

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bananafarmer

Dwarf Cavendish is not planted so often anymore, taller bananas are planted regularly now,Dwarf Cavendish, classic type will vanish more and more, that is my opinion.

In the past it was grown in greenhouses that were not very high, approx. about 5 m high,

the newer greenhouses are 9-10 m high in the middle at the side they are about 6 m high, it is logical that higher plants with bigger bunches will be planted inside these greenhouses.

The classical Dwarf Cavendish , I do not see it very often anymore.

Also taller bananas which came to Anamur from Alanya are also planted outside are spreading. The are called Alanya Azmani, suppose they are some kind of Grand Nain, the are very tall, and they have heavy bunches with long bananas.

bananafarmer

That what you call industry , I would not call it like that, we do not have big companys who grow bananas here, very often the producers are families, or persons.

Many persons here own land, also the poorest man here is owning a house and a little land.

So there ist no phasing in banana-production, every family is growing what they believe is the best, or many times its just coincidence.

I suppose there are dozens of varietys that are grown here.

GreenFin

Wow, a person could almost grow Sabas in there!

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