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Not in MY yard (please?) 10-08-2009 05:03 PM

Good neighbor but bad on fencing
 
I may be entering enemy territory here but I have an "issue" regarding my neighbors invasive banana trees.

We put in (expensive) alluminum fencing 19 years ago. Approximately 8 years ago our next door neighbor planted a couple bannana trees about a foot out from the fence - those first little suckers have made like rabbits with trunk diameters exceeding 18 inches.

They long ago dislodged our fencing. We talked with him and he agreed to 'tie them back'... we didn't press on the fence damange. He said his trees couldn't have caused the fence problem. The trees continue to thrive and multiply and several times each years I remind him to tie back the trees. But by now it does nothing helpful.

Several years ago we asked permission (our expense-$200) to have a tree person come out and cut back the trees closest to our fence. Reluctantly he agreed. The tree guy suggested to him that he could take them up and relocate them away from the fence, neighbor refused, likes them as is. I then asked the neighbor to tie the trees together so that we might keep them off our fence. He agreed but has rarely followed through. We ourselves have tied them back but as they are so thick that it is useless. .

The fence problem also traveled down to another corner of our lot and now the gate cannot be latched - I have it TIED with rope - nice look, NOT!


Last year three trees sprouted in my flower bed. I cut them off and put Round-Up on them. Must liked the stuff as this year I have five.

Questions:
1. What can I put on the suckers, in my flower bed, that will kill them?

2. What type of barrier can be put in the soil, at the time of the new fence installation to be a permanent barrier of those roots and new shoots? Anything?? Suggestions please.

I am an avid gardener with a yard full of flowers, herbs, butterflies. I appreciate that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In this case, good fences are making for bad neighboring.

Oh, one other thing, while we were away he cut back and then poisoned a purple salvia that was said to be 'growing through my side of the fence.' For the third year his fruit cluster fell in our yard. Again we cut it off, cleaned it up and quietly laid the cluster at his front door.

The neighbors on the other side have reported him FOR YEARS to our home owners association to no avail. He is getting quite elderly but is physically healthy, mows his yard (occasionally, for real). He has no friends, his daughter is powerless to get him to do right, she apologizes to us. We have been good neighbors to him but my patience has run dry. I would he has a good 20 years on me but I swear he is going to outlive me and so are those *&^% bananna trees!

Please see 2 questions above, thank you for taking the time to read through my RANT!

sunfish 10-08-2009 05:10 PM

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Root Barriers And Biobarriers. You can sever suckers at their base as soon as possible after emergence. Scoop out a hollow and fill the cavity with kerosene to kill the bud. Biobarrier - Guaranteed Protection Against Root Damage

momoese 10-08-2009 05:22 PM

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I seriously doubt that anything short of removing the plants that are close to the fence will help with your issue. Banana corms are very strong and will move wood or aluminum fences out of their way. You could dig down a make a thick concrete barrier.

I have to say that's pretty nice of you to bring him his fruit while this is going on. I know a lot of people here on this board would love to have a neighbor like you. :)

Good luck!

Blake09 10-08-2009 05:26 PM

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Or you can give some to us!! :D Id be happy to take few off your hands, as many you want gone :)


yes Root Barriers And Biobarriers seem like a good idea.

momoese 10-08-2009 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 101972)
Root Barriers And Biobarriers. You can sever suckers at their base as soon as possible after emergence. Scoop out a hollow and fill the cavity with kerosene to kill the bud. Biobarrier - Guaranteed Protection Against Root Damage

Wow, that's pretty cool stuff Tony. You think it could stop a corm from pushing it out of the way? It sounds like it will stop roots, but you know how strong corms can push against things.

Eric 10-08-2009 06:39 PM

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Mitchel has a point. The strong corm growth can cause fence damage despite a barrier on your side of the fence. Personally, I think your neighbor is a #$%&*%& @##&@%$ but that's just my opinion (hope we never have a neighbor like that). Since the Bleep allowed you to have a tree person remove trees close to the fence, maybe he'd reluctantly agree to let someone put the root barrier on his side of the fence. That would help.
I grow timber bamboo But I installed a fool-proof, $1,500 Moso-rated 6-mil high-density polyurethane barrier, extending 3 feet into the ground, before I started. It's only common courtesy to consider neighbors first.
Youre an incredibly nice person to be handling it the way you have.... I wouldn't have been. Dont know much about weed killers & stuff but I wish you the best of luck :).

sunfish 10-08-2009 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by momoese (Post 101981)
Wow, that's pretty cool stuff Tony. You think it could stop a corm from pushing it out of the way? It sounds like it will stop roots, but you know how strong corms can push against things.

I don't know if it would stop a corm but it should slow it down some. When ever we planted street trees within 15' or so of any hardscape this is what was used. It's either this or a heavy duty concrete wall.

sunfish 10-08-2009 07:11 PM

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These will do the job.


capthof 10-08-2009 07:15 PM

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This is one of the products we use to keep roots from damaging septic tank drain fields.
Please don't use where water run off will enter streams or estuaries as it is also toxic to fish and marine systems.
Biobarrier - Guaranteed Protection Against Root Damage

Richard 10-08-2009 07:59 PM

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I'm going to take a container with 2 gallons of water and add 1 ounce of Glyphosate oil (50% concentrate) and 1 ounce of Ortho Brush-B-Gone (also sold as Ortho poison oak killer). This solution I will spray on any untended sprout entering my yard. It might also kill the mother plant but given the damage so far the neighbor has nothing to complain about.

Abnshrek 10-08-2009 08:08 PM

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I do Love my Banana's but when it's someone else's anything invading my property, and damaging it as well I would simply vapor barrier the grass on my side of the effected fence and spray a plant killer which will spread through the root sytem of all plants in the area if done right thus correcting the problem. I call it imminent domain, time to take your property back. Knuclehead might plant another but may think twice before doing so.

island cassie 10-08-2009 09:15 PM

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Old engine oil will do the trick - failing that diesel!! Works on most everything! We use it here on invasive shrubby trees from the lot next door - old engine oil is the better of the two!

Scuba_Dave 10-08-2009 10:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Not in MY yard (please?) (Post 101971)
Several years ago we asked permission (our expense-$200) to have a tree person come out and cut back the trees closest to our fence. Reluctantly he agreed. The tree guy suggested to him that he could take them up and relocate them away from the fence, neighbor refused, likes them as is

Anything hanging over the fence on your side can be cut off without permission from your neighbor
And I do mean ANYTHING...including growing banana bunches
If it were me I'd be transplanting those pups

But If it was wrecking my fence I'd be cutting everything off that was on my side of the fence
I topped 3 Maple trees that were hanging over my side of the fence
Never asked the neighbor....but I'm sure they didn't mind (2 huge Oaks there)

And report him to the HOA..again & again & again & again
Last house neighbors let there dog run free
I called the Police & Dog catcher so many times they finally came & took the dog - after fining the owner $300
And call your insurance company
Have them call HIS insurance company regarding the damage to your property

Jack Daw 10-09-2009 02:02 AM

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Also I might be very unpopular for what I'm about to say, but it's not that difficult to kill a banana. When I was eliminating weed in my lawn with a special herbicide targeting initial weed development stages (specifically Taraxacum officinale herbicides...), I accidentally sprayed a litlle on one SDC I had planted out before. Banana died within a week. At first it yellowed, than browned and then went black.

This (as I later found out) also works with some invasive trees, such as Sambucus for my zone.

But beware, such damage could be described as crime on someone else's property. If that someone can prove it. And I'm not talking about the moral point of view...

I've been cutting and eliminating trees all over my yard for about 2 years now and had to "remove" several trees from my neighbour's yard, because he refused to trim them. Luckily for me, he doesn't go to that part of garden very often, but then, there's no way of saving any plant after spraying. Maybe only if it rained immediately after you go along spraying things.

Abnshrek 10-09-2009 09:27 AM

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Like Scuba dave said.. anything that crosses your property line vertically to infinity can be cut-off without notification of other parties. I'm just wondering.. how close your fence is to the line? For me the simple matter would be to goto my local Farm supply and get a siringe and inject the banana root directly where its on your property with a plant killer. This should fix the problem that effects your property thus not effecting a flower-bed of what you have on your side.

cherokee_greg 10-09-2009 11:04 AM

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well first welcome. Sorry to hear of your problem. I been there done that. I have a two foot side walk all around my fence line. I have a cyclone fence now its the privacy plus fence with the ninyl slats in them. I love it. I had a wood fence that I had to replace three times because of neighbors bushes. On one side of me the fence fell I left it laying there for over a year. Finally the neighbor got mad and told me we have to do somthing about it I agreed I told her I would get a bid she said ok let her know how much I did she said ok. Any how a week before they were going to put the fence up I told her she was going to have to trim her plants she did not the night before this half indian boy went out and got wild on her bushes !!!!!!! She was pissed. I didnt care because by that time I was pissed too. She did not pay me for half the fence I had a 8 ft tall fence put up . She complained and complained I did not care she did not talk to me for over two years until she was almost dying and her mom ask me if I would go and get her some medicine and leave it on her front porch and I did it was hard but I did it. Thats the way I was tought. She found out it was me who left the medicine and came over crying and telling me how bad she felt for all the things she said. Thats my story and im sticking to it. The two girls from Hawaii on the other side of me did help me with the cost of there side of the fence plus they helped me take down all my old fence and put it in the dumpster. The guy behind me said he would pay for half of his and he didnot.
Good luck to ya. And by the way bananas are really ok. Maybe you should try some.

LilRaverBoi 10-09-2009 01:23 PM

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This is exactly the reason I prefer to live in the country! It'd be pretty hard for even the MOST invasive of plants to travel the 1/2 mile between my house and my closest neighbor. LOL.

I would definitely install one of the root barriers mentioned/linked above to keep pups from coming up on your side. Beyond that, you can remove any foliage hanging past the midline of your fence, as mentioned. And lastly, there's always the option of reporting such things. Apparently, your neighbor is kind of rude and unaccommodating. You've tried to work with him politely/respectfully. I don't see that it has worked too well....the next step is to report it to higher powers.

Best of luck.

r3tic 10-09-2009 05:33 PM

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I'm not sure where you are located, but in most localities when you install a fence it has to be on your side of the property line. Have the municipality come out and tell you where that line is and legally you can remove anything on your side of it.

Not in MY yard (please?) 10-09-2009 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by r3tic (Post 102223)
I'm not sure where you are located, but in most localities when you install a fence it has to be on your side of the property line. Have the municipality come out and tell you where that line is and legally you can remove anything on your side of it.

We paid for and errected the fence; it is directly on the property line. This street is zoned as "zero lot line homes." No wiggle room. And he did plant his plant his BT ("bad trees"? :ha:) on his side of the line.

But...."de roots, Boss, here come de roots!"

Not in MY yard (please?) 10-09-2009 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LilRaverBoi (Post 102165)
This is exactly the reason I prefer to live in the country! It'd be pretty hard for even the MOST invasive of plants to travel the 1/2 mile between my house and my closest neighbor. LOL.

I would definitely install one of the root barriers mentioned/linked above to keep pups from coming up on your side. Beyond that, you can remove any foliage hanging past the midline of your fence, as mentioned. And lastly, there's always the option of reporting such things. Apparently, your neighbor is kind of rude and unaccommodating. You've tried to work with him politely/respectfully. I don't see that it has worked too well....the next step is to report it to higher powers.

Best of luck.

Thank you for sharing information on barrier supplies, I will definately follow through and have the entire length of fence done.

I do regularly remove the follage which hangs over the fence but I mostly have to wait until it gets crispy brown and bends because the trees are so tall. The new low buds which poke through are no problem. But mostly the fence line looks pretty shoddy with the exception for the very tallest, most straight, fresh, green tender leaves, few and short lived that they are. The trees are infected with something which produces a slimey goo with ants in it. That, at least, ran off the cat that had taken up the base of the grove for a private latrine.

Ah, morning coffee on the deck, over looking the natural creek, fanned by shredded dead banana leaves with the subtle fragrance of cat pee.

Each Zero Lot Line home has it's garage facing the street/sidewalk. Every two homes share a common drive-way. Pity the nice old couple who have shared their driveway with HIM for more than 20 years. A few garages have no windows, most do and commonly covered with something complimentary to the house windows: shutters, blinds, etc. OUR HERO hung a heavy wooden clothing rod (inside) above his window; his window covering is a mashed of clothes. Saving grace: the window is so dirty that, until another neighbor pointed it, I had never noticed.

Last month we got a letter from the HOA citing us for our yard people putting a bag of grass clippings at our curb at noon, pick up scheduled the following morning. The letter pointed out By-Laws which "prohibit" any trash being put curb side before 6pm the night before pick-up. HELP! Now where's a cop when they needed one? :03:

Not in MY yard (please?) 10-09-2009 11:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cherokee_greg (Post 102123)
well first welcome. Sorry to hear of your problem. I been there done that. I have a two foot side walk all around my fence line. I have a cyclone fence now its the privacy plus fence with the ninyl slats in them. I love it. I had a wood fence that I had to replace three times because of neighbors bushes. On one side of me the fence fell I left it laying there for over a year. Finally the neighbor got mad and told me we have to do somthing about it I agreed I told her I would get a bid she said ok let her know how much I did she said ok. Any how a week before they were going to put the fence up I told her she was going to have to trim her plants she did not the night before this half indian boy went out and got wild on her bushes !!!!!!! She was pissed. I didnt care because by that time I was pissed too. She did not pay me for half the fence I had a 8 ft tall fence put up . She complained and complained I did not care she did not talk to me for over two years until she was almost dying and her mom ask me if I would go and get her some medicine and leave it on her front porch and I did it was hard but I did it. Thats the way I was tought. She found out it was me who left the medicine and came over crying and telling me how bad she felt for all the things she said. Thats my story and im sticking to it. The two girls from Hawaii on the other side of me did help me with the cost of there side of the fence plus they helped me take down all my old fence and put it in the dumpster. The guy behind me said he would pay for half of his and he didnot.
Good luck to ya. And by the way bananas are really ok. Maybe you should try some.

Nice closure for all involved. I keep reminding myself that there is yet another life lesson in there for me with MY HERO. I really do have that philosophy; it's daily living it that's hard. Thanks for the reminder.

Not in MY yard (please?) 10-10-2009 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Abnshrek (Post 102095)
Like Scuba dave said.. anything that crosses your property line vertically to infinity can be cut-off without notification of other parties. I'm just wondering.. how close your fence is to the line? For me the simple matter would be to goto my local Farm supply and get a siringe and inject the banana root directly where its on your property with a plant killer. This should fix the problem that effects your property thus not effecting a flower-bed of what you have on your side.

Again, Zero Lot Line Homes, fence errected directly on top of line. Seems fair, nobody lost any land.

So then.

The ole quiet dusty back roads Farm Supply in my husband dirty SUV vs. my Betsy's Beautiful Baskets and Boquets Boteaque in my perkey black Beetle Bug with the pink geranium in the dash, huh?

Confession: last summer, on one particulaly hot and humid and hiddious Texas afternoon, I snuck in the house! With stealth, I quicky grabbed the ice pick from the kitchen drawer! I looked around. No one saw me....

....ok, so i did stop and whack off a chunk of ice to crunch before...

....I surrepticiously tip toed back out in my flip flops and trudged around angy mounds of fire ants, as only Texas can grow um....hush....I waited...hungry hoards of mosquitos gatherd around me and between the toes of my cute flip flops (and I had just had my toes painted too!)...while I remain stealth under the scratchy, ragged, nasty brown broken leaves. Taking a deep breath, and with all the pent-up rage that only a Sargent of Arms at our Garden Club can wield, I repeated plunged that ice pick, again and again....hmmm let's say maybe an inch or so (?) or so into the flesh of the largest, meanest, oldest and most scarey BT ever!

Then I slopped a couple tablespoons of liquid edger into the mortal wounds I inflicted on that sucker!

True Story.

...spread the word....don't mess with Texas Women!.

PS - When I buy the siringe, what product do you recommend for the poison? Thanks!

Not in MY yard (please?) 10-10-2009 01:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuba_Dave (Post 102044)
Anything hanging over the fence on your side can be cut off without permission from your neighbor
And I do mean ANYTHING...including growing banana bunches
If it were me I'd be transplanting those pups

But If it was wrecking my fence I'd be cutting everything off that was on my side of the fence
I topped 3 Maple trees that were hanging over my side of the fence
Never asked the neighbor....but I'm sure they didn't mind (2 huge Oaks there)

And report him to the HOA..again & again & again & again
Last house neighbors let there dog run free
I called the Police & Dog catcher so many times they finally came & took the dog - after fining the owner $300
And call your insurance company
Have them call HIS insurance company regarding the damage to your property

INSURANCE COMPANY!!!! WHY HAVEN'T I THOUGHT OF THAT! PERFECT!
And your right, letters (I'll send certified) to HOA and the City.
THANK YOU!!!!!
PS - I love bananas and eat them most every day, local Farmer's Market
not growing my own, OR HIS, on a small Zero Lot Line Lot.

Not in MY yard (please?) 10-10-2009 01:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Daw (Post 102063)
Also I might be very unpopular for what I'm about to say, but it's not that difficult to kill a banana. When I was eliminating weed in my lawn with a special herbicide targeting initial weed development stages (specifically Taraxacum officinale herbicides...), I accidentally sprayed a litlle on one SDC I had planted out before. Banana died within a week. At first it yellowed, than browned and then went black.

This (as I later found out) also works with some invasive trees, such as Sambucus for my zone.

But beware, such damage could be described as crime on someone else's property. If that someone can prove it. And I'm not talking about the moral point of view...

I've been cutting and eliminating trees all over my yard for about 2 years now and had to "remove" several trees from my neighbour's yard, because he refused to trim them. Luckily for me, he doesn't go to that part of garden very often, but then, there's no way of saving any plant after spraying. Maybe only if it rained immediately after you go along spraying things.

Maybe it's the Zone 9-10 issue here.

Not in MY yard (please?) 10-10-2009 01:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Abnshrek (Post 102015)
I do Love my Banana's but when it's someone else's anything invading my property, and damaging it as well I would simply vapor barrier the grass on my side of the effected fence and spray a plant killer which will spread through the root sytem of all plants in the area if done right thus correcting the problem. I call it imminent domain, time to take your property back. Knuclehead might plant another but may think twice before doing so.

Appreciate you thoughts and your time responding...BUT...there are SO MANY BAD stories...about HIM....for real and I'm dead serious here. One doesn't get to be so old and so alone without good reason.

You confirm the other posts that I could/should and WILL stop being so like "Mr. Rodgers" as in, sung liltingly, "won't you be my neighbor."
Thanks.

damaclese 10-10-2009 08:41 AM

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Boy i hear every one on this issue i had a tree that was clearly on my property. its was over 24" away from my neighbors fences. this tree was well over 300 years old. there were no visible roots on his side of the fens. he asked me to trim the tree several time each time i did. its was a magnificent tree. i went away on vacation for 2 weeks and when i cam home he had hired an arborest to cut my tree to the ground. i was not only incised but was so sad this three provided a wonderful back drop to my yard. needles to say this is what i did.

one i filed a trespassing complaint against my neighbor.r i subpoenaed him for the name of the Co that did the work. i filed trespassing complaints against the Co. they had to pay a hefty fine. the Neighbor got all belligerent on the judged. he went to jail for 90 days. the judge also awarded me 10,000.00 for the tree. a mature tree is worth any were from 5000 to 10000 depending on age. as i said this tree was over 300 years old considered irreplaceable legally. the Neighbor refused to pay the fine. so i made a motion to the Court to seize his bank account. he didn't like that cam to my door at 10 at night drunk as a skunk took a swing at me. I called the police he then took a swing at the cop and ended up with a rather severe beating for resisting arrest. he went to jail for 5 years. i went back to court and asked for a motion to place a lean for the rest of the money for the unpaid potion of the diet he owed me was granted. mean wail the bank that held the mortgage on his house foreclosed. i then filed a motion to seas the house for non payment of the lean was granted based on the fact that it was 2 years older then his mortgage deliquesce. he really pissed of the judge again in that appearance was fined again for mouthing off. i was able to send his House to action i got my money the Bank got the leftovers and he went to jail!

the point to all this is be a good Neighbor and do the right thing. it can turn ugly really fast and ones the courts get involved things can spiral out of your control. you can loose every thing over a silly fence. is is worth it i say no the money i got just covered my legal fees for the hole thing. in the end i had no tree it took up an enormous amount of time this all happened over a 3 year period and pretty much a life got ruined over a fence a tree and a lack of respect for others

which brings up the last point no mater what You have legal rights the law is on your side if you are preforming you duties as a good Neighbor you can fours any one living on an adjacent property to trim maintain or pay for 50% to 100% of the cost to fix maintain or replace a fence or water way if they are not preforming there Co-Duties most of which if you are a well prepared you can do with out a lawyer in small clams Court i say this if all civility has passed with no avail then seek advice from an attorney its worth it to resolve most of the time a simple letter out lining your position and explaining the consequences of inaction will resolve it

momoese 10-10-2009 09:33 AM

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What a story Paolo!

damaclese 10-10-2009 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by momoese (Post 102335)
What a story Paolo!

ya iv never shared that night mare with any one before now. it was something i had hoped to forget. I didn't really go in to the history of my Neighbor he was a terrible drunk with a long history of involvement with the Police he also had a history of violent behaver. one of the reasons i think the judge in this case was so prone to rule in are favor and that fact that we were on firm legal grounds. if i was in a similar situation again i would just move. iv had three different neighbors that have done bad things to me. i think really after having had years to think about it they were all hassling me because I'm Gay and my yard was nicer then thers LOL but at the time i wasn't sure of that. but now i am!

djmb74 10-11-2009 08:10 AM

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What I story! I feel your pain on that one. I had a neighbor back in the late 90's the wife and husband were drunks and they had 3 kids. My kids didn't really want to play with their kids (they cussed and threw rocks at cars. etc.) So the mother decided that we must of thought we were better than they were and for 2 years had problems with them until we ended up moving, 2 other neighbors moved because of them as well...one time my wife called the police because the husband got in my face tried to take a swing at me I dodged the blow he fell to the ground (drunken blows are sometimes easy to dodge). Someone had called code enforcement numerous times on them as they ran a mechanic shop out of the house and had a yard full of all kinds of different items all the time. I never called but all the neighbors that lived next to him called yet for some reason they thought it was my wife that kept calling code enforcement, yet she never did. It was crazy...

I had a black lab at the time, she wanted a piece of those neighbors so bad was so interesting to be able to see a dogs emotions so apparent. She really hated those people, fortunately she was so well trained that she wouldn't do anything that I didn't tell her to do... lol

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Originally Posted by damaclese (Post 102341)
ya iv never shared that night mare with any one before now. it was something i had hoped to forget. I didn't really go in to the history of my Neighbor he was a terrible drunk with a long history of involvement with the Police he also had a history of violent behaver. one of the reasons i think the judge in this case was so prone to rule in are favor and that fact that we were on firm legal grounds. if i was in a similar situation again i would just move. iv had three different neighbors that have done bad things to me. i think really after having had years to think about it they were all hassling me because I'm Gay and my yard was nicer then thers LOL but at the time i wasn't sure of that. but now i am!


Abnshrek 10-11-2009 11:07 AM

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ut oh... lol First of all I have Lesbian neighbors as 2 of 6 neighbors. The only problem neighbor I have is an older fellow that lost his butt on Enron. Of course he blames them, but then again he was so old he should have been in bonds or something safe. 5% for good advice is better than having nothing. He's a sourpuss to say the least. The reason I don't have wilbur & templeton (my pot belly pigs) lol.. I had to find them a home down the road.
Of course I have the best looking yard of the bunch. I don't gloat I know what makes me happy, and going to have the environment around me when I walk out any of my doors. Its all about being happy and the pursuit.. :^) I have new pot belly named pork chop.. lmao

damaclese 10-11-2009 11:29 AM

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i thank you all for your supportive stores i think were I'm coming from is that no one should be a prisoner in their own community fight back if you think its worth it I'm a bit of a pioneer at hart and all get my shot gun out metaphorically if any one threatens my home or my "Alternative family" LOL
there are just some things you cant let slide and theres others that just arnt worth the hassle but the impotent thing is to stick to you principals as long as it is health and makes sense in the long run

I'm sure you have all herd of the two neighbors the sue each other for years on end over a silly disagreement i don't want to find my self in that place ether


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