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MediaHound
09-14-2006, 05:02 PM
This thread is for sharing knowledge of sources for banana seeds.

Here's a few:
http://www.shop.sunshine-seeds.de/index.html?bananen.htm
http://www.seedman.com/banana.htm
http://www.rarepalmseeds.com/small.shtml
http://www.banana-tree.com/catalog~StartRow~41~category~13.cfm (http://www.banana-tree.com/catalog%7EStartRow%7E41%7Ecategory%7E13.cfm)
http://www.europalms.be/seedlist_wholesale.htm
http://www.trebrown.com/shop/bananas.php
http://www.seedrack.com/06.html
http://www.jungleseeds.co.uk/SeedOrders/enter.html?lang=en-uk&target=d1.html
http://www.ortanique.com/seed_view_all.php?category=Banana+Seeds
http://search.ebay.com/banana-seeds-pepper_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopa genumZ1QQfposZ33314QQfromZR10QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ3QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQs acatZQ2d1QQsadisZ200QQsargnZQ2d1QQsaslcZ2QQsatitleZbananaQ20seed sQ20Q2dpepperQQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs
http://www.penyaseeds.com/fruit-seeds/banana-trees/banana-trees-cat.htm

Please add to the list!

mrbungalow
09-15-2006, 12:24 AM
To be able to sprout banana-seeds successfully, I would say you need atleast 50 or 100. I can see some of these companies have shocking prices for 5 or 10 seeds. Usually, these seeds are ordered from other online stores at wholesale prices. Not only monkey-fingers in this hobby, monkey-business too!
My favourites at the moment:
http://www.trebrown.com
http://www.kenibreedplants.com (directly from India, large orders only)
http://www.banana-tree.com (Best on price, quality on banana-seeds seems good)
http://www.rarepalmseeds.com (Poor service, but seeds I have recieved have been very good quality)

Erlend

cedardave
09-15-2006, 07:36 PM
I have ordered from rareseedsource.com with good success.

barna
10-19-2006, 06:39 AM
I ordered from

http://www.sementes.de/shop/index.htm

a german company, with good success

Tropicallvr
12-12-2006, 05:54 PM
I ordered from

http://www.sementes.de/shop/index.htm

a german company, with good success

That company has a few rare musa species, but I'm having trouble ordering. My German isn't good enough I guess!

mrbungalow
12-13-2006, 07:17 AM
I ordered from

http://www.sementes.de/shop/index.htm

a german company, with good success

This is exactly the type of seed-companies I try to stay away from. If you look closely they have some names wrong, they have pictures of wrong bananas next to a named species (some also obviously stolen), some of the latin names and varieties are very questionable, and the prices are horrifying for 10 seeds.

Gabe15
12-13-2006, 09:55 AM
I agree with Erlend, the names and pictures are so wrong on most of those that I would question what species you would be recieving at all. Its one thing to have wrong or outdated name for a species, to have blatantly WRONG and STOLEN pictures is a whole different thing.

bigdog
12-13-2006, 06:22 PM
LOL!! Here's my favorite one: Musa superbum sp. siamea.

http://www.sementes.de/shop/images/medium/musa_superbum_ssp._siamea.jpg

Huh? :0491:

mrbungalow
12-14-2006, 01:55 AM
The scary thing is that this company is just the tip of the iceberg. I have seen plenty of seed-dealers on the net taking their customers for fools.

Also, be very aware on e-bay, is my other advice.

And insist on atleast 50 seeds for germinating bananas. If you buy just 10, it might turn out to be a very expensive plant when you have to order again and again...

island cassie
01-20-2007, 09:10 AM
I haven't ordered banana seed from Jungle Seeds, but I have bought a number of other seeds from them (about 15 species I guess) and I have had minimal success in getting them to germinate. Even allowing for ineptness on my part, this is a poor success rate, and I emailed Jungle Seeds in September. I am still waiting for a reply!!!

Marc_Netherlands
05-14-2007, 08:34 AM
www.palmenverkoop.nl (http://www.palmenverkoop.nl)

paw465
05-16-2007, 06:24 AM
I'm just about to order some seeds from a UK company called 'Ready To Grow' so if anybody knows any reason why I shouldn't (without committing libel that is!) I'd be extremely grateful for any insider info before I waste my money.
Paul

mrbungalow
05-16-2007, 07:56 AM
Don't buy from Ready To Grow, the prices are ridiculus for a few seeds. Besides, you need more than 10 or 15 to ensure germination!

I would suggest a specialized company that sells in quantity such as www.trebrown.com or www.banana-tree.com. These are my personal favourites at the moment.

MediaHound
05-22-2007, 08:27 PM
Tropicallvr posted this place in another thread, figured I would add it to the list
http://chmai.loxinfo.co.th/~goldenlt/prod02.htm

Tropicallvr
05-22-2007, 09:46 PM
Not sure if they really have E.maurelli seeds yet, but they are said to be the ONLY source for the true Trachycarpus princeps.

the flying dutchman
05-23-2007, 05:10 AM
According to dutch sellers the seeds of true Trachy princeps are very very difficult to germinate. They sell 3 years old plants with divided leafs for 35 euro. They expect the price for this palm will rise in the near future.


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Trachycarpus Princeps or the stone gate palm is a quite new palm and very rare!. This palm grows along the Salween rivier or in Chinese "Nu Jiang" (Angry river) on heights of 1000 to 6800 mtr above sea level in a area that is known as the stone gate were it first was discovered. But in fact this palm not only grows on cliffs but has a bigger area and grows actually in the "Nu Jiang" area in several small populations. The stone gate is just a part of that area. The princeps palm is covered with a thick pure white waxy substance, which easily differentiates it from other species.Think of the future!, sitting under this palm and look up against the white leaves. The upperside of the leaves has a special green color with a blue blush (when dry!). The original Trachycarpus princeps seeds are rare, and very hard to germinate! Therefore the price will become higher and higher in the future! This palm is frost hardy till -15°C and the most beautiful suited for outside.

Warning: because incorrect seeds of this palm are being sold, a green form of T.princeps circulats in the market, this palm has nothing do with our Princeps!, the so called green princeps palm stays green forever and becomes a fortunei looking palm, with a thin trunk and long leaves.We sell the real thing
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Ron

MediaHound
05-23-2007, 01:19 PM
Just found these guys while researching the T. Princeps.
They claim to have it.. fwiw
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.ison2/page11.html
They have a bunch of banana seeds, too.

rane
05-27-2007, 02:15 PM
A word of warning about www.banana-tree.com/ : They are selling seeds which they decribe as ' MUSA acuminata cv. "Dwarf Banana" ' I bought some of those back in 2005 and got 3 to germinate. They didn't seem to gain size quite as fast as I expected and started pupping while they were pretty small. This spring one of them started flowering and the reason for the small size became clear: They are not acuminata!! The flower stands straight up and is all pink so I guess it is velutina. They are still peddling the same stuff and they didn't react in any way when I informed them about it so I suspect they are doing it on purpose. (velutina seeds are easier to come by and germinate well -> less expenses and customer complaints early on and who cares if a few of them are disappointed 2-3 years later)


Link to the page that tricked me:
http://www.banana-tree.com/Product_Detail~category~13~Product_ID~575.cfm

Tropicallvr
05-27-2007, 02:33 PM
Do you have any pics. I'm really interested in what that banana is since I am growing it also. Thanks.

Gabe15
05-27-2007, 03:09 PM
My own rule of thumb, "don't buy edible banana seeds expecting edible bananas". Because its quite simple, edible bananas are edible because they don't have seeds, so if you are attempting to grow them from seed, obviously whatever fruit it came from was seeded and thus is not edible.

rane
05-28-2007, 12:29 PM
Do you have any pics. I'm really interested in what that banana is since I am growing it also. Thanks.

I guess this was a reply to my post. Yes I have pictures, I'll upload them soon.



My own rule of thumb, "don't buy edible banana seeds expecting edible bananas". Because its quite simple, edible bananas are edible because they don't have seeds, so if you are attempting to grow them from seed, obviously whatever fruit it came from was seeded and thus is not edible.

I'm aware of that, I wanted to grow acuminata (the species) too. Another thing to mention is that many (most?) species don't produce any fruit at all unless you have two or more plants flowering a suitable time from eachother.

rane
05-28-2007, 04:17 PM
Yes I have pictures, I'll upload them soon.


They are in my gallery now:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=597

MediaHound
05-28-2007, 05:56 PM
yep
Velutina
:o

bigdog
05-28-2007, 09:36 PM
Well...how about that. A seed dealer misrepresenting their product. Never heard of such a thing, lol! To be fair, banana-tree.com is actually one of the better seed dealers, and definitely one of the cheapest. Glad you broke the news on this one though. I wanted to try that one, because Kyle said it was pretty cold-hardy. It is definitely M. velutina. They also offer plants of "Musa itinerans var. gigantea," (now known as Musa itinerans var. xishuangbannaensis)...but it is not what they are actually selling. The plant that they describe is the same one that Agri-starts sells, and I believe it to be Musa yunnanensis.

Anyhow, I digress. Thanks for the heads-up!

Tropicallvr
05-28-2007, 09:59 PM
I think I also have the veluntia from the same seed source(M.acuminata bntree). The leafs look similar from what I can see.
Weird how "some" of my veluntias from seed were more hardy than TC. Maybe one mild winter hardens them up for the next colder year?

tnerual
09-27-2007, 07:29 AM
This thread is for sharing knowledge of sources for banana seeds.

Here's a few:
http://www.shop.sunshine-seeds.de/index.html?bananen.htm
http://www.seedman.com/banana.htm
http://www.rarepalmseeds.com/small.shtml
http://www.banana-tree.com/catalog~StartRow~41~category~13.cfm (http://www.banana-tree.com/catalog%7EStartRow%7E41%7Ecategory%7E13.cfm)
http://www.europalms.be/seedlist_wholesale.htm
http://www.trebrown.com/shop/bananas.php
http://www.seedrack.com/06.html
http://www.jungleseeds.co.uk/SeedOrders/enter.html?lang=en-uk&target=d1.html
http://www.ortanique.com/seed_view_all.php?category=Banana+Seeds
http://search.ebay.com/banana-seeds-pepper_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopa genumZ1QQfposZ33314QQfromZR10QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ3QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQs acatZQ2d1QQsadisZ200QQsargnZQ2d1QQsaslcZ2QQsatitleZbananaQ20seed sQ20Q2dpepperQQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs
http://www.penyaseeds.com/fruit-seeds/banana-trees/banana-trees-cat.htm

Please add to the list!

I am looking for somebody who has tried http://www.geocities.com/skyfdn/

(PNG musa ingens seeds supplier only).


Laurent - France

Lodewijkp
02-12-2008, 07:17 AM
Exogarden.nl, winterharde palmzaden en andere exotische zaden. (http://www.exogarden.nl)
for english version :

Exogarden winterharde palmen,zaden en zaailingen. (http://www.exogarden.nl/palmzaden/index.php.php?language=en&osCsid=357e28f46d621712e588d4499c496b1a)

also in english language , if you buy per 100 seeds send them a mail they wil do it very cheap and good quality.

bikoro child
02-12-2008, 07:23 AM
here is one more:
Sandeman Seeds (http://www.sandemanseeds.com/)
They have musa thompsonii ,I'm not sure it's the same as musa thomsonii ...

51st state
02-29-2008, 09:09 PM
Anyone fancy trying this again?

Ensete Perrieri seeds (20) for 4.99 euros

: leroi du palmier (http://www.leroi-du-palmier.com/)

I've just bought some. I kinda figured the supplier is french, Madagascar speaks french, (although it was a portuguese colony wasn't it?)
we'll see.

I only know one person who's actually germinated one

51st state
02-29-2008, 09:11 PM
I am looking for somebody who has tried Papua New Guinea Tourism Resources Online -- an online tourism information portal developed by Samson Komati Yuimb to promote Papua New Guinea's rich tourism market (http://www.geocities.com/skyfdn/)

(PNG musa ingens seeds supplier only).


Laurent - France


I dont want to slander anybody but This guy is a crook,dont do it

tap his name (Samson K Yuimb) into google and see what comes up.
take care
Kev

DIDIER QUARTIER
08-05-2008, 05:53 AM
This year I ordered 130 seeds of 8 species of musa by S E M E N T E S** Margrit Reiner (http://www.sementes.de)

Only 2 seeds germinated.

I ordered at the same time by europalms with good success.

In an answer to my complaint Margrit Reiner from sementes I got the mention that I have done something wrong. Both the seeds from europalms and sementes were treated the same way.

My conclusion : no service by sementes, no refunds or replacement of seeds

don't buy

If anybody have good success this year give me your seed source and results.

Thanks

Didier Quartier
Belgium

mskitty38583
08-05-2008, 10:02 AM
you can try the bananatree.com. they sell a lot of seeds. i have bought some from them and the seeds are fine.

Chironex
09-11-2008, 08:04 PM
I just noticed that seedman.com has a wholesale division named NextHarvest.com They are advertising Monkey Finger seeds. I thought these weren't propagated by seed. Will someone please clarify this?
Here is the page: Seeds From NextHarvest.com (http://www.nextharvest.com/banana.htm)

bikoro child
09-12-2008, 09:03 AM
And what about Musa Sapientum?

tony palmer
09-14-2008, 01:18 PM
Is there any one that has tried this seed company they have a good selection of Musa species and I’m going to make an order if anyone can recommend them Exotische Nutz- und Zierpflanzen (http://www.exot-nutz-zier.de/default.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1)


Thanks Tony

51st state
09-15-2008, 05:27 PM
Hi Tony

looks OK but europalms are a tiny bit cheaper arent they. what are you after? I might have some over.

Kev

jmoore
09-18-2008, 01:42 PM
I've been buying my seeds from this guy Tropical Seeds; Exotic Seeds, Vegetable seed & Tropical Plants Mail Order (http://www.jungleseeds.co.uk), they are a good price (well actually I don't know what a good price is, but...) they have been very reliable seeds so far and he has a good selection, and you can pay by paypal. :bananas_b

tony palmer
09-18-2008, 02:49 PM
Kev,
i was just looking for some nana seedsto put in the propagator in january, it gives me a little interest in the winter months, do you have any of the itinerans group on offer except yunnanensis and burmese blue ?would you PM me please if you do, thanks Kev

Jmoore,
I dont know peter personally at jungle seeds but i have talked to him via email on one or two occasions and he is always very helpful, he has a passion for banana plants himself and does'nt stock old seed, he may be a little more expensive than some but he provides good service and quality seeds:bananas_b

Tony

Chironex
09-28-2008, 03:21 PM
Anyone fancy trying this again?

Ensete Perrieri seeds (20) for 4.99 euros

: leroi du palmier (http://www.leroi-du-palmier.com/)

I've just bought some. I kinda figured the supplier is french, Madagascar speaks french, (although it was a portuguese colony wasn't it?)
we'll see.

I only know one person who's actually germinated one

Kev, I have about 25 seeds left. Still have about 25 of them in various germination trials. In fact, I planted about 15 last night following a two week soak. Have them on alternating temps. Also trying some other methods. Will soon try embryo rescue on some of them. The Ingens are also in various media, so we will see. I have some in banana peel in coco peat/perlite mix, following a 2 week soak; others in Jiffy mix, and a few that will be put into embryo rescue soon. (They are still soaking in water now, but were in kelp solution for the first 3 days.)

Chironex
09-28-2008, 03:31 PM
you can try the bananatree.com. they sell a lot of seeds. i have bought some from them and the seeds are fine.

I just tried the site Sam, looks like they are no longer there. Did they change their website?

Bob
10-20-2008, 01:00 PM
This post is probably too late but the site is banana-tree.com not just bananatree. I've been dealing with them for over 10 years , I
visited the store about 10 years ago when they started selling palm seeds in consumer sized packages. I got 3 plants ,2 "apple"(manzano) and 1 Burmese blue just last month and they're doing great. If I recall the owners name was Fred although I'm not 100% on this. They were super knowledgeable and took the time to answer my questions. I think Musa basjoo was fairly new back then because I had just gotten a few and we had a long talk about them......B

jmoore
08-30-2009, 09:53 AM
This is an excellent thread, is it allowed to rate suppliers for quality of seed, service, germination etc, or would that be libelous? Any lawyers out there?

I've tried a number of these suppliers with mixed results.

Bob
08-30-2009, 09:56 AM
What a difference a year makes. I'm not looking to purchase any new bananas at this point but by far my best plants have come from members. It never hurts to ask.

jmoore
08-30-2009, 10:07 AM
Indeed that would be ideal in a country like America where there is an abundance of nanners to purchase and swap, for those of us who live in the backwaters of the UK it's a little more tricky. I rely on germinating seeds to get most of my plants.

I've got a glut of formosana and sikkimensis seedlings at the moment so I'm chuffed. I now have something to swap and sell on ebay.

dylancgc
09-25-2009, 03:56 PM
I purchased my seeds from rarexoticseeds.com. I have had great germination rates on seeds I got from here.

jmoore
09-26-2009, 02:06 AM
That's good, I've just ordered 100 laterita seeds from them.

dylancgc
09-26-2009, 08:35 PM
Two of my Musa laterita just sprouted this week. That made me happy.

H2O
04-02-2012, 10:46 AM
Exogarden.nl, winterharde palmzaden en andere exotische zaden. (http://www.exogarden.nl)
for english version :

Exogarden winterharde palmen,zaden en zaailingen. (http://www.exogarden.nl/palmzaden/index.php.php?language=en&osCsid=357e28f46d621712e588d4499c496b1a)

also in english language , if you buy per 100 seeds send them a mail they wil do it very cheap and good quality.

Hi,

It tooks time, but:

1-Finally daj giant seeds received on the 10th of may - after "few" mails ;) -
2-Good germination rate. (>%20)

oakshadows
04-02-2012, 04:59 PM
Many of the members will guide one to the best place to buy seed or plants. Our experience with members has been good.

jmoore
04-03-2012, 01:44 AM
I've been using Kenibreed plants recently. You have to email them for a seed price list and they only sell seeds by the thousand, but the prices are very good. You will have to pay for a phyto and postage, but very good value. They are in India so seeds direct from the source and always fresh.

Kenibreed Plants - We deal in seeds of ornamental / flowering plant and some bulbous plants (http://www.kenibreedplants.com/)

Ignore the seed range on the website, you need to email them for their full range.

Also Europalms are very good Europalms - Home (http://www.europalms.be/en)

These are the only seed suppliers I use now, no one else compares in my opinion.

DoctorSteve
04-05-2012, 02:57 PM
Has anyone ordered from natureproducts.net/? They sell itinerans and Yunnanensis so I wonder if they know the difference.

Also what about the reliability of true seeds from trade winds fruit? I want to order from them because it look like they have some cool ones but I am worried they will be wrong.

tnerual
04-06-2012, 04:15 AM
Hi

does anybody know something about this (new) seller ?

Musa ingens (http://www.onszaden.nl/en/796871/musa-ingens)

jmoore
04-06-2012, 09:45 AM
I know nothing about the seller, but I do know that it has been well established that Musa Ingens will not germinate from seed away from it's native environment and as such you will be wasting your money. Especially at 7.50 Euros for 5 seeds!!

griphuz
04-10-2012, 04:11 AM
All Musa seeds I bought there a few years ago, nothing germinated :(
I wouldn't try ingens anyway as it is doomed to fail for several reasons,.....just try another big nanner, even if it gets half as big it's too big to get inside during winter.

Kind regards,
Remko.

Dreaminofthetropics
04-16-2012, 09:06 PM
Has anyone ordered from especiesseeds.com??? I am thinking of placing an order with them as they have some cool tropical fruit seeds as well as velutina and a couple others I want to try.

DoctorSteve
05-12-2012, 11:57 AM
Ok so I am about to order some seeds from one of the fallowing sellers:

U.S.:
Trade Winds Fruit Seeds - Rare and Heirloom Seeds (http://www.tradewindsfruitstore.com)
Banana Seeds in retail packets for the home gardener (http://www.seedman.com/banana.htm)

Europe:
rarepalmseeds.com - palm seeds, cycad seeds, banana seeds (http://www.rarepalmseeds.com/small.shtml#bananas)
Sunshine-Seeds - Exotische Samen & Pflanzen aller Kontinente (http://www.sunshine-seeds.de)
Europalms - Home (http://www.europalms.be)

Which one of these are the best to order from in your opinions.

jmoore
05-12-2012, 12:50 PM
For me europalms every time.

RPS - NO
sunshine seeds - never used them, but appear to sell small quantities for large prices. This has always put me off.

Have no idea about the U.S one sorry

I will add a caveat: europalms have musa itinerans on their list, it is actually Yunnanensis. Also Ensete Perreri is actually Ensete Superbum and Musa Cheesmani is not Cheesmani I have no idea what it is. So baring this is in mind Europalms everytime.

If you want banana seeds I have ensete glaucum, Musa Sikkimensis, Musa Balbisiana, Musa Griersonii also Palm seeds I have Trachycarpus Takil, T. Ukhlrensis or T Nainital all up for grabs and in good quantities and at good prices.

DoctorSteve
05-12-2012, 01:20 PM
Yeah europalms looked like a good price. Do you have good germination rates with their banana seeds?

I am actually trying to get some Yunnanensis seeds, thanks for the offer though.

jmoore
05-12-2012, 01:33 PM
Yes, always get good germination rates.

Moensjaain
05-14-2012, 10:39 AM
Has anyone ordered from especiesseeds.com??? I am thinking of placing an order with them as they have some cool tropical fruit seeds as well as velutina and a couple others I want to try.

Ordered some zebrina seeds. Payed for 50 and got over 150 seeds. Soaked for 3 days. Now waiting on the result.

flaflowerfloozie
10-07-2012, 11:35 PM
does anybody know something about this (new) seller ?

Musa ingens (http://www.onszaden.nl/en/796871/musa-ingens)[/QUOTE]

I know they don't reply to emails, I have tried for a few different items in the past to get clairification on things...doesn't look like the seeds are available anyway, some where I saw there was a 1 year wait period on the Musa Ingens on the website and the prices are steep if you include postage about $2.00 a seed...tooo... 2... rich for my blood

H2O
10-10-2012, 01:47 PM
hi !

Quite expensive and important too : "Expected delivery time: 1 year"

5 seeds is not enough, whatever kind of musa you want to have.
(for Ingens i guess really not enough because very few success)

dsws
12-07-2012, 12:11 AM
I got my 10 seeds through Digital Raingardens -- Where the Garden Is Art (http://www.raingardens.com), but the seed packets say "seedman" on them. I don't know whether raingardens is worth listing or not. They might have other sources as well, and just sourced my order through seedman. Or they might just be seedman with a markup.

flaflowerfloozie
12-07-2012, 12:35 AM
Didn't see the Ingens in the banana list